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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I think that Perl is an excellent first language; it may even be useful in the real world.
You had me up to this point (definitely agree on the IDE statement). While it's useful in the real world, Perl has got to be the poster child for "write-only language"
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APL is much more a write only language than Perl.
TECO-10 macros came in a close second... They look awfully similar to acoustic modem line noise!
(I'm really dating myself here!)
Perl is actually quite readable.
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True - APL is in a class by itself. Now I have to look up TECO-10. My productivity thanks you.
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TECO-10 was the text editor for the DECsystem-10 (PDP-10) timesharing system ... 1970's
Text Editor and COrrector.
It was a "blind" editor in that it didn't display what it was doing unless you asked for it.
Designed for use on hardcopy terminals, e.g. ASR-33 (10 chars/sec)
Just about any character sequence would do something!
(Other than file errors, very little was "illegal".)
There was also a TECO-11 and TECO-20 (if I recall).
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Assembly. Learn how the machine works at a nice low level so you actually understand why we have programming languages.
And frankly, assembly isn't that hard to learn. I'd say it's actually one of the easiest things to learn. What's hard about assembly is learning how to do more complicated stuff than moving bytes around. And that's where the real teaching happens.
Marc
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Sure... "Every high level language is the machine language of some virtual machine."
I didn't really get any benefit from being introduced to assembly.
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Agreed, perhaps even maybe machine language.
Learning assembly might also resolve the issue of programming without "goto".
Never moon a werewolf.
- Harvey
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I liked the IT curriculum I had in college in the late 1980s. The course sequence began with Pascal; the instructors acknowledged that it had little commercial value but was an excellent teaching language for the basic concepts of structured programming. After that came an "overview" course, which had students learn how to write simple "Hello, world" level programs in the languages that were in current use (for me, it was JCL, COBOL, FORTRAN, RPG and C.) After those two intro classes (which could be taken concurrently), students would branch out according to their major and interests.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Why, Lisp of course. Doesn't *everyone* know that
Nope not lisp. Paint!
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JavaScript.
Empire of the Dev world in future.
Nothing is Impossible for Willing Heart.
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Spam. By far. Learn Spam.
And, you can eat it, too!
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Paul Hellyer, who has long insisted that aliens have visited Earth for many years, says that when aliens saw the atomic bomb they decided that we were a great threat to the cosmos. There you go, Fermi Paradox solved
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Who do you think makes iphones then? (Not area 51)
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Cake-mix was also invented in the 40's, which is used far more often than atomic bombs.
So there's no reason for those aliens to be so judgemental.
Who do they think they are anyway? They crawled out of an ocean just like us, only because it was on the planet zrltyfloop doesn't make them special.
Anyway, if I was from a hyper advanced tool-making species I wouldn't 'give' my tech to a less advanced species because it's disrespectful and we could potentially benefit a lot more from each other if we evolved separately.
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WorldWide Telescope is an observatory on your desktop, allowing you to see the sky in a way you have never seen it before through individual exploration; multi-wavelength views; stars and planets within context to each other; the ability to zoom in and out; and the capability to create, search and view guided tours of the universe. "Eppur si muove."
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Huh. Microsoft actually did something cooler than Google for once? Amazing.
Marc
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"At least some external executives who discussed the CEO job with Microsoft directors have expressed concerns about being hamstrung if the two men continue to serve on the board, according to people familiar with their thinking," report Ovide and Lubin. Discuss
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What everyone is ignoring is the elephant. Times have changed, and Microsoft is moving, if not to the sidelines, then certainly off stage-center. It's all just part of a natural life cycle, and that's what any new CEO is really going to have to contend with -- gently lowering the expectations of employees, shareholders, and the stock market to more realistic expectations that we would expect from a "mature", perhaps "over-the-hill" company.
Heh. Did I just call Microsoft over-the-hill? Yep!
Marc
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It just became the rock star with the introduction of .NET 1.0 ten years ago, fading so quickly?
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If you’re looking to land a new job in 2014, you have to stand out from the crowd. Your resumé should pop. How do you achieve that? Stop using buzzwords — words that are overused to the point where they mean absolutely nothing. I was responsible for organizational-driven strategic creativity
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The trending partnership of optimizational keyword components to parallel one's achievements brings understanding to the developing senses of management seeking prospective solvers.
All words in the sentence above taken from the CodeProject.com home page at the writing of this message.
That is, ya don't hafta go far for new buzzwords to put into yer resume!
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Seattle-based Code Fellows is asking experienced devs to explain how they originally learned to code in an effort to help those interested in the field. One semi-colon at a time
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Listings pages at the back of computer magazines - does anything like that exist now?
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Oh wow, I had forgotten about those.
I remember typing in a basic program for measuring race times for a sports carnival at school. I never did find out if it worked. Come to think of it, my QA skills may not have improved much
I am not sure what the modern equivalent would be, and I'm pretty glad I can just copy and paste now.
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