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They need people with real coding skills to fix the craptastic projects that attempted to use low/no code strategies.
They're finding out that OTS solutions are NOT the answer to company specific data requirements.
Manager: "We need this nifty new wiz-bang feature to be added to our ServiceNow/SharePoint/SalesForce/Tableau/QlikView app."
Low/No-coder: "We can't do that, or at least not the way you want it, and certainly not in the requested time frame."
Manager: "But I thought this low/no-code stuff was supposed to make everybody a programmer and provide faster solutions for database-heavy apps."
Low/no-coder: "What's a database?"
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: Low/no-coder: "What's a database?"
I've spent too much time writing views/SPs for a sr. partner who has tried several dashboard reporting tools over the last decade. They want to contribute and despise having to rely on me for all the coding. I can appreciate that, but they are still dependent on me to write their queries and figure out how to implement/deliver the bloated results of whatever new tool we are trying this year.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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Explicit privacy communication mechanism can simplify UI and limit user fatigue. And this week's Nobel Peace Prize goes to...
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He's only the second person in the company's history to hold both roles after Bill Gates. "I'm bored. I'm the chairman of the bored."
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A board is long and hard; it is made of wood.
-- Chief Engineer Lawrence
A Fall of Moon Dust, Arthur C. Clarke
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Queries can take days, but it's possible to pull out specific files. Sadly, it doesn't support indices or SQL
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Queries can take days... So... business as always (at least in some places)
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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A survey of IT leaders reveals that innovation is at risk as IT demands rise. However, IT leaders view business-led low-code/no-code application development as prudent and inevitable with the right protocols. "Some men just want to watch the world burn."
I'll let you decide if it's the 92%, or the 8%.
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In future news: a new industry dedicated to fixing no-code solutions has emerged. Since time and resources have already been poured into the no-code solution, businesses have no real bargaining power to push back against the cost of hiring these specialists. When asked about the relative cost discrepancy compared to traditional development, a manager interviewed anonymously responded "[it] ends up being more expensive, but that's pushed to the next budget cycle. Not my problem."
I jest but we all know it's true
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Surely less of a jest and more of a logical deduction. How else could it be?
Unless and until AI gets clever enough to really predict what end users actually want, low code/no code generated by end users will need fixing, maintaining, and completion of fiddly bits. This is actually nothing new. Tools like 4GLs, Access, report generators, etc. have been around for a long time and have proven that this process happens.
If such tools are to be more common and more capable, which seems natural, then it is inevitable that more professional support/maintenance/fixing people will be needed. These people are currently called developers.
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Anyone with a modicum of experience on AutoSAR knows how much a licensed Vektor consultant can ask for 30 hours of training and help (not developement, that has to be done by customer's resources). When I saw the invoice I had a half stroke... then got really pissed, since it was more than my yearly income.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I've never worked in the auto industry but I feel like I've heard others here on CodeProject mention how absurdly expensive things are in that industry. Is it like this AutoSAR program has no competition, is basically required, but no one wants to work with it so those that do make a fortune?
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Jon McKee wrote: Is it like this AutoSAR program has no competition
It hasn't, for reasons. First, it's an operating system. Second, it's ISO26262 certified. Third, it met the requirements of various automotive committees, more or less (like most de facto standards it was developed before the commitee ever decided anything and then has been modified incrementally).
Also, it allows a lot of interoperability between manifacturers, as it defines the communication protocols between any ECU, virtualizes them and implements most of the low level code.
Jon McKee wrote: no one wants to work with it
Many would love to, but it's proprietary and Vektor bills ungodly amount of money for useless training and necessary certifications and licenses. Even their non AutoSAR programs, for which there are low cost (as in 200$ instead of 10-20k) or free alternatives, are grossly overpriced.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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filed under, "What the hell do you mean we have to redo it?"
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I work in this field of low-code/no-code platforms now and I have more than a decade of experience in app development. Just completed a project where these business devs has used excel as database bacause they don't understand SQL. Converted that app to use SQL and removed tons of steps that was making the whole process slow. There will always be a need for developers.
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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And this is why being a programmer is always going to provide a steady income. They need us to fix the crap their low/no coders produce.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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With a 6G smartphone, you could read so many stories about 7G, 8G, and even 9G. Do I hear 7? 7G anyone? 8? How about 9G?
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Wow, and I just bought my 5G. I think they do this on purpose! Why else would they fight against "Right to repair". Can I beat the curve and just buy a 9G already!
"When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid."
Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn.
Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning.
Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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The encryption algorithm GEA-1 was implemented in mobile phones in the 1990s to encrypt data connections. You mean it's not just everyone around you that can hear your phone conversations?
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Hmmmm,
The best place to hide information is probably in plain sight.
Case in point:
The Chris Maunder Gravatar icon: https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a67a31d131918d8fc68180c034bed045.jpg?d=identicon&s=150&r=pg
Although there are 2^128 possible MD5 combinations and there are around 360 million domain names... only a fraction of those have MX records (mail server records) which will greatly reduce the search space. You can further reduce the search space by only searching through the top 100 or so email providers.
Permutation through the range of 1-4 letters [n][n][n][n]'@codeproject.com' we can quickly compute that a67a31d131918d8fc68180c034bed045 is the MD5 hash of chris@codeproject.com
Gravatar icons are a security risk and can be used for sitewide farming of emails.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
P.S.
By the way I searched the codeproject forums first to make sure that Chris has publicly shared his e-mail before making this post. If this post violates any site rules just delete it.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: (checked it with mine as well) I almost used yours for the example but it looked like you would want it remain private.
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Kent keeps publishing his password; it seems he's a security exhibitionist
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