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No virii
Oh, I don't know about that. I remember back in high school, we had IBM PC XT systems, which all booted from DOS disks (an entire classroom, not a single hard drive). I never found out where it originally came from, but those boot floppies eventually all got infected with a virus - repeatedly.
We couldn't write-protect them, because part of the class' exercises was to modify the config.sys and autoexec.bat to configure different things at startup. So, the virus kept propagating from floppy to floppy. Part of my job as head of the high school computer club (in hindsight, there was no reason to want to be that guy) was to clean up those floppies...
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Now I remember. The Stoned virus. Good times.
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And the FM was at least 1,000 pages thick.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I've done the same thing to make old PC fans quiet again for a while.
Under the fan's label there is a rubbery plug that can be removed to add a bit of WD30 motor oil. The plug is then replaced but the sticker can't because of the oil on one's fingers.
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It is freezing in Houston...
Out water heater - since 2007 - quit...
since I got no other "honeydew..."
I took it a part....
the "thermometer coupler line " has little tiny , less then penny size , actual gizmo which sense the pilot light working ....
It was physically broken - no connection....
TEMPORARY bypassed it - so when you hear about gas exposing in Houston...
Waiting for whole burner assembly to arrive...
They say everything (technology) is good for about seven years...
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They say everything (technology) is good for about seven years...
If that's the case, then I'm really stretching things out. Even my gaming machine goes back to 2012. That's purely based on the first firmware update I installed myself. It might even be a year or two older. Somehow, something even as recent as Red Dead Redemption 2 was playable (at low resolution, but still very much enjoyable).
I have about 5 laptops that were given to me as people moved on to something else, and didn't know what to do with them. I'm sure one of them is also a dozen years old. I have a Macbook Pro from 2008 that I bought (used), as I wanted to tinker with and learn the MacOS (which in the end wasn't really much of a worthwhile endeavor).
I still use a Zune daily - great podcast device. I didn't get one until Microsoft officially cancelled support for it, which according to Google also goes back to 2012.
I'm sure I have older gear still, but those are the ones that still get regular use.
Heck, my car is going to be 18 years old this summer.
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When I retire my PCs or parts they go to my sister and family. I don't wait for them to get terrible.
Usually I just want something more capable.
Currently my oldest PC in use is about two years old? I think. It's a champ. Probably hang on to it for another few years but I'm going to upgrade to a 4TB system drive as soon as samsung gets around to undelaying my order and shipping me my 990 Pro.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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My oldest PC (actually a laptop) is about 12 years old - an Intel 2670QM CPU, still going strong. It is competitive with the i5-1035Gx series which was released 8 years later. The only issue I have with it is that it can't support Win11 (no TPM 2.0, unsupported processor), so when Win10 goes out of support I might have to consider retiring it.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I don't wait for them to get terrible.
PCs don't "get terrible" (unless they break down), if you just keep doing the same things with them and don't try to extend their original use.
Just like PCs don't "slow down". Newer software just gets more and more demanding.
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Well, I'm taking that into account. The fact is, after several years, even a clean old system will show its age. It just is.
And while you're not wrong in theory, I think when the rubber meets the road it's more realistic to consider software inflation.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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software inflation
I like the term.
The system I just retired had one of Intel's first Atom CPUs. It was slow on day one, but after all this time, I honestly can't say I found it any slower today than I did back then. I set up Win7 on it, kept up with updates (as long as MS kept pushing them), had no software installed on it beyond the OS, and just used it to host file shares.
Most of my systems each have a very limited role that doesn't grow much over time. Maybe that's how I manage to stretch my PCs' useful lives that much.
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Right, but the machine was special case and dedicated. I'd consider it an appliance at that point more than PC.
A PC if nothing else, is probably going to run a web browser, and that alone will continue to demand faster hardware. I can barely run Chrome on Win10 with 8GB. That's one reason I got rid of that machine.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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"Appliance" is not a bad term.
And you're absolutely 100% correct. How you use a "general use" PC evolves over time. With few exceptions, most of my systems might be considered mere appliances, as you put it. The exception might be the PC on my desk. It's used primarily to RDP into other systems elsewhere, and general browsing locally. And "browsing" today is nothing alike browsing even just a few years ago.
I have an aunt who - poor her - only "browses the net and plays games on Facebook", with a Windows 7 laptop with 1GB of RAM. I don't know how she can tolerate that. I would imagine it might not have been all that bad initially, but nowadays, a browser - any browser - sharing 1GB of RAM with an entire OS - is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure she just spends less and less time on it over time.
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Last Christmas, I asked my girlfriend what she wanted from Santa.
She said "nothing would make me happier than diamonds."
So I bought her nothing.
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It's a bugger to wrap!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I hope you did not pay too much. The cheapest nothing I found on Amazon cost $5.99 .
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Typical usage of English language
put emphasis on adjective....
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as if it were not like that in other languages...
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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old joke but still funny
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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