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soundtrack from Red October.
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Michael Jackson Earth Song.
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This moment "Heavy is the crown" by Linkin Park, for the 5th time today. Lately I've been listening mostly to Nocturna and Frozen Crown.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next
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Last track I listened to at my desk was "Ich tu dir weh" by Rammstein.
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With hearing aids, music not so good.
Otherwise: Hank Snow, I'm Movin On.
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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When I'm coding it's a lot of Drum and Bass, usually late 90s-early aughts but as late as the '10s. I don't like the newer stuff at the moment - too vocally and autotuney, as is popular. I stick to instrumentals when I code in any case, as vocals are too easily distracting.
When I'm cooking or cleaning or something, I like something fun, like Whitey - Stay on the Outside. Maybe even some electro-swing (don't judge me!)
When I want songs that make me think, well pick anything by Aesop Rock, but if you're going there, start with Rings.
I have different music for different moods and activities - much more than the above, but I don't want to spend all the screen real estate on it.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Daft Punk - Robot Rock
Next, Death Row Greatest Hits - The Shiznit
Its a very unique collection with the only theme being "Random"
Hogan
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Boney James, The Loop[^]
Software Zen: delete this;
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I have a small pile of old laptops that I'm not quite willing to get rid of just yet. Stacked them one of top of the other. Some have been in the pile for years.
The one at the bottom, under the weight of all the others, I guess started putting too much pressure on the trackpad buttons, and I recently found out they no longer work. Lesson learned. That's what you get for being so obsessed with thinness, you manufacture a laptop with so little space between the display and the keyboard when the lid is closed that they touch.
Anyway. I thought I was really clever when I instead started using those (typically) metal or plastic dividers you get from office supply places. I don't know what to call them. They're made to let you organize papers on a desk. Not just a stack of horizontal shelves. The sort that lets you place papers or small books in them vertically.
Here. This illustrates what I'm talking about...
So...I started placing my old laptops in one of these trays, "nose first" -- none of my laptops have buttons on the front that would get damaged from the laptop sitting on that edge for some amount of time. Whether the power connector is at the back or either side, that's not a problem either. Easy to grab any of them or put them back (easier than trying to take the last one from a stacked pile anyway). Takes little room. I only see advantages to this. Most laptops nowadays are thin enough they easily fit in one slot.
Nothing particularly innovative here. I just never thought of using one of those trays like this until now.
How else have you repurposed some everyday thing in a way it wasn't really intended?
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I have four laptops in a book rack. They sit in the rack on their sides (not as deep, but taller). The bottom of the rack is lined with a piece of foam, just in case the constant pressure from being stored that way might cause deformation of the plastic. Like yours, not innovative, but serviceable. Depending on the age of the laptop, I can fit up to three laptops at a time between the dividers. I figure there's room for a dozen machines in my rack.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I've got a stack going now...5 laptops and a scanner in my spare office chair. Two of those were started in the last 12 months. All are at least 9 y/o and running a mix of Win7 and 10. In the closet I have my very first laptop from '99. In my outdoor garage, I have my old TI/994a in the box...now if I just had a TV with a two-wire antennae hookup I could have some fun with BASIC!  Additionally, I have every tower PC I've ever owned and a few that weren't mine. I know I have a problem. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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I put my Log Log Duplex Decitrig slide rule in its leather case, in a padded drawer.
I keep the book that came with it on the bookshelf.
(no, don't remember the last time I used it)
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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I had a moment of panic when I read your message and realised my British Thornton P221 Comprehensive slide rule wasn't in it's usual spot. Then I realised I'd moved it to an adjacent shelf while trying to tidy up. I last used it for anything serious roughly half a century ago!
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Options
a.) Crush them and throw them away...
b.) Donate the laptops to a non-profit organization with an OS; of course only after all your personal data has been irretrievably deleted (which can then be rather critical).
c.) Donate the laptops to a non-profit organization _without_an_OS
Format all the drives
Personally I tend to a.)
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Let me assure you, the laptops I have are the rejects that the non-profits don't want and send to the recycling center.
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Umm, Dandy, don't take this the wrong way, but you have issues.  I type this as I look at my current work laptop, my new work laptop and my old work laptop while typing this on my server. If your stack is that high, seek therapy.
But wait, I have a funny story to tell. Actually, not so funny, so I'm not going there. I just typed it out and I got very angry. Don't be a hoarder.
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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What's "that high"? Did I say how high I have laptops stacked? How many do you think I have?
What's too many? Who's to say? Based on what criteria?
These are the tools of my trade. I use them to earn a living.
You don't want to know about my other ("non-laptop") systems then. Or the number of VMs my hosts are running.
My dad was a mechanic. He owns more than one set of sockets. More than one set of ratchets. More than one set of screwdrivers. More than one impact wrench. Should I inform him that's excessive?
I'm not offended. Share your story if you must. I genuinely wonder what made you "very angry".
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Oh jeeze, it's the lounge, relax. I know all about laptop stacks. It was a running joke in my family what with 11 kids and needing laptops for school, toss in the wife and myself...
So, the angry story - I must have had 6 or more laptops back in the equipment closet. My youngest two, and I'm guessing they were like 8 and 6 yo at the time, asked wife if they could take apart a laptop to see what was inside. Mom thought it was fine... now this is in May. Come November, remember, I have a hoard at home so Christmas is a big financial opportunity. I think to myself, "Myself, lets sell those old laptops and buy Christmas presents." I go to the equipment closet - nothing there. Went to the master bedroom closet - mmm nothing there. After zooming around the house for 30 minutes, wife asks me, "What are you looking for?"
me: "The laptops I had back in the closet."
her: "Oh, those are gone."
me: "Pray tell where?"
her: "I let the kids take them apart."
me: "They were MY laptops." <--- blood pressure rising.
her: "We TOLD you about this."
me: Funny look on my face... umm, "bull$hit" <--- kids running for cover, mom's in trouble.
her: doubling down, "We TOLD you we were going to do this!"
me: I've lost my temper at this point. Honestly, I have never been so angry than at this point. My hands are shaking.
"Do not EVER touch computer hardware in this house again."
I went to my office. Wife wanted to discuss the situation. Nope not going to happen. Leave me alone.
That's where the anger quip came from. Like you, I have my stack of laptops. Hope we're good now.
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Hey man, I knew that, clearly, it's wasn't my "hoarding" that got you angry. I'm sorry. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) I know we've discussed your situation before, and believe me, I had zero intent to rile you up - you don't deserve that.
If anyone must know: I have exactly 4 of these old laptops. Certainly not anything excessive (I don't think???)  If I've painted a different picture, that's my bad.
And there's only one of these laptops I've actually bought myself. The other three were given to me by people who needed to upgrade to something else and didn't know what to do with them. I do put them to good use - mainly, trying out various Linux distros that, for a reason or another, won't run in a VM.
Which I find strange, as you'd think a VM, with its known virtualized hardware, would have better support than the endless myriad of physical hardware configurations.
[Edit]
Oh, and if anyone ever touched any of my hardware without my permission, there'd be some serious s'plainin' to do. Things would get unpleasant.
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we're good my friend. It's all good.
The problem with VMs is you have to get there and be religious about using them. For work, I believe in them religiously. For personal stuff, I am very easily led astray to install stuff on the base system. I have a year long project trying to pull all of my personal stuff, email, documents, etc into a VM. I keep getting distracted. I'll get there.
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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I'm a slave to my VMs.
I made the switch, maybe 15 years ago, once I understood the potential.
My primary system hardly has anything on it - I tend to leave anything I would consider to be "my docs" on a system that just has a bunch of disks. Nothing on that host but the OS. My VM hosts (other, "remote" systems) have nothing but their required drivers and the VM host software (Hyper-V in my case).
My VMs are pretty much all single-purpose. One VM dedicated to running the DC role. Another for dev. Another for SQL (only). A bunch more for testing against various OSes. Another for all the browsers under the sun.
If something goes wrong with a VM, since it has a single task, it's usually pretty straightforward to bring it back up. It's really when you dump everything on a single machine that rebuilding becomes a real time sink.
When it comes to backing up the VMs, I just backup the hard drive files, and I know I can bring them over to another host in the worst case scenario, and just recreate new VMs and point to the existing "disks" (disk files).
I have a separate VM that's purely for trying out random downloads and things I might not necessarily trust from the get-go. I even have one VM where I do all my printing. I have more than one printer, and printers are notorious for installing all sorts of extra garbage. I let them install whatever they want on that system, I don't care, it's ONLY used for those few times I need to actually print, and the VM otherwise remains off. My "real" systems all remain pretty clean without that sort of cruft that just accumulates all the time.
Anyway, I don't think I need to convert you to the VM religion. I could write a lot more on their benefits...
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nah, I'm there brother . My former primary customer mystifies me in not letting developers use VMs. But the developers get paid even if their machine goes down. Consultants don't. Glancing at my stack of backup laptops....
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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