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Many thanks Chris!
I didn't recognize the button '<>' for the HTML view. The symbol looks like the 'Insert HTML character' within the message editor. It would be more intuitive to label the button with 'HTML'.
Cheers,
Jani Giannoudis
Meerazo.com - Resource Sharing Made Easy | Co-founder
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Done!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Great!
One small suggestion: to distinguish this view command better from the formatting buttons, you may right-align (editors right edge) the 'HTML' button.
Cheers,
Jani Giannoudis
Meerazo.com - Resource Sharing Made Easy | Co-founder
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One thing (bug?) I noticed was that the preview and the look after "submitted" was not the same.
The preview looked like I expected it too, but the look in the pending version that I only could see after submitting it looked different
example
This is some text in the html view
and for <bold>fun</bold> I make a line break (in the html view only)
This would in the preview look like
"This is some text in the html view and for fun I make a line break (in the html view only"
But in the submitted view it would look like
"This is some text in the html view
and for fun I make a line break (in the html view only"
I.e. the line break, only visible in the html view editor was visible in the "pending article / submitted" view as well.
I got quite confused of this and kept going back to modify the article until I have "corrected" the html view part as well --- just to avoid that it would look horrendous in its final look
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I noticed while editing your article that there were line breaks in the text which I corrected. These line breaks were actual HTML line breaks (<br/>), so for instance you had the line
For this reason <br />
it is always better to just do pre increments
which is rendered as:
For this reason
it is always better to just do pre increments
When you say "the preview" do you mean within the WYSIWYG editor, or when you hit the "Preview" button? If the former, then it could be that this line break matched the width of the editor screen so wasn't evident. If the latter then we have a bug!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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With "preview" I mean the preview-button. At that time I thought it was very evident. Preview after preview-button was different from the view when the article was pending. ... but hey I did it at 2-ish at night so my mind was mush.
I.e. I think it's a bug, but I wouldn't stake my life on it.
Cheers
-- Kjell
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KjellKod.cc wrote: At that time I thought it was very evident
Just checking. Some consider the WYSIWYG a preview; some consider the preview to be what they saw in their offline HTML editor. I'm a cautious man.
A bug then. I will add it to the TODO list.
Thanks again for helping out with answering the endless questions.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Thanks again for helping out with answering the endless questions.
It was my pleasure. I am a huge fan of T.C.P and the spirit of its members. It's the best source of code learning out there.
Great work by you guys
Cheers
-- Kjell
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I've tested both on live and on development and can't replicate the issue. It may have been an earlier bug we've since fixed. A few days ago I did reset the document format on a few articles that had been incorrectly set, and we also updated our rendering code.
In any case, if you see it again just let us know.
BTW - you have a ton of outstanding Draft versions of that article you recently published. Would you like me to clean up the debris for you?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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That is great news.
Chris Maunder wrote: BTW - you have a ton of outstanding Draft versions of that article you recently published. Would you like me to clean up the debris for you?
Yes please! I felt guilty over that. I expected a yell-at from whomever was reviewing it.
I was afraid of removing them (if even possible by me?). No doubt they where created because of my frequent and iterative
{"Modify" + Submitt + Found-FormattingProblem-NotShown-inPreview}
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The alternative article concept is really good , quick question
So who have the authorative to pick it up and what if the original author does not like it.
Curios ?. I am interested in creating some alternative articles of some great authors. But with appreciation i am sure i can expect contradictions as well.
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Anyone has the right to make an alternative of any other article.
Go for it!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Few suggestions:
* Provide the tool bar the the bottom of Editor. Mostly, when writing new article, the author would generally be writing at the end of editor. So, when author needs to apply some formatting he/she would need to make toolbar visible and then hit appropriate button. But then, the original text would not be visible. I have 22" monitor, and I write on about 150% of zoom in IE9. But toolbar isn't visible.
* Add more shortcuts, Ctrl+D is good, but what about "Formatted" for code? How to switch between HTML and WYSIWYG?
* Most authors don't know additional formatting, like "div=callout", and instead use "Formatted" instead. The parser would read it as text rather than special comment.
* On code pasting, convert tabs to 3-4 tabs, instead of author doing that manually. Also additional lines would come up when pasting.
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The HTML of the original (to be edited) article may retain the old style file references (eg src = "MyArticle\MyArticle_Image.png"). In this case, it is necessary, but not obvious that the reference MUST be revised to src = MyArticle_Image.png. You provide a good clue by saying that uploaded files are relative to the article (or something like that). It would be better if that statement was augmented by something like "Check that the HTML references do not contain Directory names" -- hmmm I'm sure you can improve on that!
I do not know that the invalid refs are cleaned up on submission - I never had the guts to try. I do know that the invalid refs are NOT cleaned up on Preview.
I was updating 2 articles and only one showed that problem.
Jim Parsells
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Thanks for the feedback, Jim. We tried to be clear on the submission wizard itself where an example of referencing files is shown within the list of uploaded files, as well as providing "insert" buttons that will do all the work for you.
The trick here is that, underneath it all, we still actually use "MyArticle\file.ext" (though this is now "1234\file.ext" since we've ditched basenames due to uniqueness headaches and just moved to using the article ID). Within the submission wizard editor we strip the "MyArticle\" from the raw HTML, then when you switch to design mode, add it back so the WYSIWYG mode shows the images.
So: it's the same as it always was, but when editing the raw HTML we do some magic so it seems like references are now relative to the directory containing the article.
Further, if you upload a file and reference the file using Directory\file.ext, then it should all still work. If it doesn't, please let me know which article and I'll dig in.
We want file handling to be painless.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris,
Thanks for the quick reply! I think I will have to look harder for the "Insert" buttons!
The one thing that threw me off is that for some reason when I switched to Html view, the MyArticle\ was not switched off. I was explicitly looking for something like that since my image was not showing in Preview. In the Design view, the older Image was the one displayed. I had deleted that Image file and add/upload a new Image with the same name. The way I fixed both of these problems was to manually strip off the "MyArticle\" from the src = and also from the download files, in Html view of course.
I was making a mod to an old article that I had updated the day before (a mod to a mod). What really irritated me was that I had had the same problem with the first update and didn't note or remember how I had fixed it then - after all, it was only 12 hours between updates - I should have remembered.
Just to make it more confusing, I was doing two articles over the same time period and the first article, of about the same vintage or even older, did not have any of these problems.
Bottom line: The suggestion I made was to address a problem that should not occur.
Should you wish to chase this one, the article's ID is 11654.
Jim
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I had a quick play and it seems the article is all good now. Having the old MyArticle\ appear is annoying. This most likely happened because of some bad data our end.
Some more background: initially all articles simply referred to downloads in their MyArticle directory without any recording in our database of what was actually in that directory. We fixed this by scanning the directories and recording, and associated, downloads for files.
In some cases we had servers that were out of sync and so this association was inaccurate. When this happens the submission wizard doesn't know how to trim links because it doesn't trust anything other than what the database says.
I'll make a note to clean up the data.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Get the error "The content is either too short or default."
I was trying to use the on-line wizard. I normally create a template first and the update it. So my initial template is always similar to the default and very short.
Question: How much change I need to make so it is no longer considered default or too short?
Thanks ...
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That error will be triggered anytime a major portion of the template exists in the content.
With the new submission wizard you don't need to publish it to save it. You can hit the Save Draft button and your current work will be saved as a draft. To view drafts, just go to the submission page[^] and you'll see, on the right hand side, your drafts.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks. When I go to the submission page, I see all the people's drafts and it is a long list. It is difficult to find my draft. It should be good idea to filter the drafts by person.
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Dr. Song Li wrote: It should be good idea to filter the drafts by person
This bug has been fixed.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi Chris,
I used the new article submission wizard, and I clicked the "Save this version" button. Then the article disappears. It is no longer shown as a draft, and it is not in the article list.
Where can I find this missing article?
Thank you ...
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Hi Chris,
After clicking the "Save this version" button, the article disappears.
It could not be found in the draft, and it is not shown in the list of the articles either. Where can I find it? I marked it as "unfinished" since I am still editing.
Thanks ....
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