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so the result is 48:48
same:same for both
being CS graduate, i may not like this. Buts Welcome everyone, who can write 'Hello World' in any language.
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It's a huge issue. In continental Europe we often do informatics (examples: Scandinavia and Greece), or informatics engineering (often in France). The content is not exactly the same as computer science. I, for example, did 4 years of Information Systems and Administration where, apart from algorithms, databases etc, we also had IT project management, management, Human Resources, MIS, security legislation etc.
So I didn't respond to the poll.
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Most of the developers I came across in my career are Electrical Engineers. Did any once else experienced the same?
"Never put off until run time what you can do at compile time."
- David Gries, in "Compiler Construction for Digital Computers", circa 1969.
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Don't know about "most" but certainly quite a few. It seems to be the most common of the engineering routes into programming.
Kevin
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I'm happy to realise I'm not lost as an Electrical Engineering Student
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I learned FORTRAN in 9th grade in 1968. I received my M.A. in Linguistics in 1978. I changed direction in the mid-80s and earned a certificate in Computer Operations and Programming. Currently, I am a Systems Programmer / Analyst.
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill
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So you finally reckon computer language is easier to tackle than human language?
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Steve Wozniak took quite a while to complete his degree in electrical engineering and computer science (EECS) at Berkeley. That's because in 1972 he took some time out to help birth the personal computer revolution. He designed Apple Computer's first line of products, the Apple I and II, with Steve Jobs, and helped produce the Macintosh; in 1987 he returned to Berkeley to finish his B.S.
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Evoluteur wrote: to finish his B.S.
Cause he was fed up with Steve Jobs's BS?
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Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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47% with degree
50% without degree
Life's Like a mirror. Smile at it & it smiles back at you.- P Pilgrim
So Smile Please
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May be a little closer now...
Abhishek Sur
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That there is a major difference between a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and any I.S. degree. I am concerned that many of the C.S. answers where not C.S. but some other I.S. form.
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I have an Associate's of IS and a Bachelor's of CS, so I'm covered either way.
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One for Software Engineering, and the other for Computer Science - rather similar to the distinction between physics and (normal) engineering.
The bulk of CS students these days really just want to learn how to program. They aren't especially interested in p=np, finite state automata, nondeterministic compilation and the like (nor any of the non-trivial math that goes along with it).
Let the kids that just want to program, program. Let those who actually want to be scientists, be scientists.
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Which are you, programmer or scientist? And what do these scientists do?
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aspdotnetdev wrote: And what do these scientists do?
Write better software
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MidwestLimey wrote: Write better software
That is not necessarily true! I have worked at a university, and I can tell you for sure that the scientists were HORRIBLE programmers. Great minds and great ideas, but oh so crappy programmers.
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Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Why would anyone, with or without a computer science degree, write software in the first place? Besides, aren't we really "developing custom solutions that enhance end user productivity while contributing to client satisfaction?" :p
Sincerely Yours,
Brian Hart
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Not all of us are "developing custom solutions that enhance end user productivity while contributing to client satisfaction".
For instance I am building critical embedded SW for Airborne Defense Systems.
Ps: I have an Electrical Engineering Degree and I am doing a Master Degree in Mechanical-Aeronautical Engineering.
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Brian C. Hart, Ph.D. wrote: Besides, aren't we really "developing custom solutions that enhance end user productivity while contributing to client satisfaction?"
No. And if anyone uses that kind of language in my presence, I reserve the right to fetch a large hammer and give them a reprogramming they will never forget.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Nuff said. Money is better anyway
Sincerely Yours,
Brian Hart
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But astrophysics is more fun... Want to trade that PhD for a MSC in Computer Science?
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PhD in computer science here. And I'm programming.. bad thing..
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Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. Douglas Adams, "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"
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Heck, I was writing software (for pay) before I had any college degrees at all. I later got both BS and MS degrees, but in engineering rather than CS.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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