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Hi,
I don't know different between NT 4.0 and Win 2000 and Win XP, please tell me what is different ?
Thanks ...
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http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,46095,00.html
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Okay, i've read the article, but what's your point? All 'negative' issues bought up had their corresponding 'rectifiers'. Any why the hell is everybody always so happy about giving personal information to anybody - so long as they aren't Microsoft?
David Wulff
dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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>Any why the hell is everybody always so happy about giving personal
>information to anybody - so long as they aren't Microsoft?
It may have something to do with a reputation of the company - they cheat!
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No they don't.. You're a paranoid man..
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Alex Marbus
www.marbus.net
But then again, I could be wrong.
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Well, I don't know where to start. But briefly -
Other sites are decentralized or have different owners. DoubleClick had only so much info. But with HailStorm, Microsoft will have a lot more detailed profile of each user. This, coupled with raw sockets support in XP, leaves a lot of room for suspicion.
This kind of power can be abused by anyone, not just Microsoft. And add to that its history of aggression.
Alluring as the technology is, Microsoft needs to do something to allay fears of loss of privacy and/or abuse of personal information.
Neelesh
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And yet people are willing to go around giving credit card numbers to strangers over the phone despite the biggest cause of credit card fraud is when these telesales (or whatever you call them) people jot down random credit cards numbers and steal from them. And you are willing to enter a competition at your local supermarket to win a car, that asks you your familiy income and third sister-in-law twice removed's surname? People are all too happy to give out personal information for the purposes you are paranoid about to people who don't even need to ask for it. Yet Microsoft develop a service that could just make it easier for people to conduct business on the Internet and people are jumping through hoops to bring 'em down.
And for your information, the information you enter in Passport and other Hailstorm services does not necessarily go to Microsoft. Indeed, individial companies (sites) will be able to store the information locally on their servers.
So I repeat my question: What's the big deal?
David Wulff
dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Do u want to know why people hate Microsoft??
Everybody wants FREE software. Most of the software they use are pirated. Hence they are afraid to give personal information to Microsoft. They fear of getting caught!!
Thats the reason whey they make a big deal about XP activation
A Microsoft Admirer
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I was going to reply with a "lol  ", but that would not really be appropriate seeing as what you've said has pretty much hit the nail right on the head.
David Wulff
dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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The issue is not sporadic loss of privacy but 'big brother' type profiling that Passport/HailStorm enables.
Two recent articles have influenced me. You may want to read them.
Stewart Alsop:
http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?channel=artcol.jhtml&doc_id=203359
Dan Gillmor:
http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/opinion/dgillmor/dg080801.htm
Microsoft certainly deserves credit for C#, CLR and other terrific innovations. Passport and Hailstorm are good but but couldn't Microsoft have thought up of alternative architectures such as XNS.org?
Why should a single entity have so much info on citizens?
No one except the government should.
The company has failed miserably on the PR front as far as privacy concerns go.
For more technical issues on Passport, visit http://go-mono.net/passport.html
> And for your information, the information you enter in Passport and other
> Hailstorm services does not necessarily go to Microsoft.
I'm not so sure. Can you please point me to some link that says so?
--Neelesh
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XP RC2 (started shipping to selected "beta testers" this week) *requires* the activation key to run. You have 30 days from the date of install to acquire the key.
All of the OS lemmings that will be blindly following Microsoft through the Gates of hell may now start forming a line to the left.
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Say it: "Windows is good! Microsoft is good! All other OS's are irrelevant! Windows is goo...." 
Have you noticed, that WinNT/2K/XP begins with a blue screen (installation), and ends with a blue screen????
maXallion
"Don't drink and derive!" - The Code Devil
www.maxallion.de - coded evil & more
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I've already said it. The *concept* behind windows is a good one - common interface, ease of install, etc etc), but the company behind it has motives that are NOT in the best interest of its customers.
I won't be buying any more Windows installs, and I doubt if I'll update from VC6 to VC7 because there's really no point (the compiler's ansi compaliance won't be improved, and MFC apparently isn't going to change, so why bother?)
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I won't argue about MS business policy, but VC7 is better than VC6. Its ansi compaliance is improved, and the new Visual Studio is very nice (have you tried their HTML editor?  ). Also, there is ATL server for server-side applications. I am not sure about MFC (I use it only when it is really necessary), but I think it has been improved too. At least, there is mfc70.dll instead of mfc42.dll.
I vote pro drink 
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Something else I've noticed with the beta 2 release of VS.Net is that it runs so much more smoothly thatn VS 6.0 ever has on my machine (and this is my home machine I'm talking about here, which is WAY under the recommended requirements for VS.Net)! The only problem I've noticed with beta 2 so far is that certain combinations of project settings (i.e. MTI windows and CHtmlView), cause the appwizard to forget about creating the view's header file! Instead it saves the implementation over the top of the definition, causing all kinds of errors...
And MFC has had a couple of new classes added, and a couple of undocumented ones documented. It does pretty much everything now anyway, so you can't improve it that much more. The Html dialog box is very nice, but it brings IE dependancies into your project (let's not start that again).
David Wulff
dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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>but the company behind it has motives that are NOT in the best interest of >its customers.
Since when did any company put the best interests of its customers first. All companys are only interested in putting themselves first. It's just that companys like Sun and Microsoft are so big that we notice them more.
My own misgivings about XP are its Fisher Price like user interface but then again from when I started using Windows in 1992 to about 1998 I still went to the command prompt to delete files and list directories. So maybe I'd be better off using that Loonyx thing I keep hearing about.
Michael
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I installed WinXP RC2 this morning, and at a first glance it's "usable"!
What I like most, is that it boots faster than Win2K, and it supports sound in old MS-DOS apps & games , so no dual-boot WinXP/Win98 in the future, hopefully.
Actually I installed it because i like the start-up screen 
maXallion
"Don't drink and derive!" - The Code Devil
www.maxallion.de - coded evil & more
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Has anyone gone back to last year's poll concerning the same question about Windows 2000?
27% - yes, most definitely
14% - no, moving to Linux
(I wonder how many of these folks really did move to Linux)
For the record, I voted "Definitely not" on the current poll.
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...are really the lamest thing, about which 'professionals' can converse.
This kind of topic really SUCKS!
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If you're gonna say that it sucks, at least tell us why so we can argue - er - I mean *discuss* it with you.
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One thing that holds many people from upgrading to Win XP is the issue of (giving up) privacy during registration of Win XP.
Remember all the hoopla about DoubleClick?
WinXP with HailStorm & Passport can well be the "mother of all demographic aggregation services".
Wonder what the EFF is doing about it...
--Neelesh
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One thing that holds many people from upgrading to Win XP is the issue of (giving up) privacy during registration of Win XP
Give up what?
Registration is optional, you only need to activate it, not tell who you are.
- Anders
Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Anyone done this? Any problems encountered? Then if you do it, does XP only work for 180 days?
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Do a clean install if you can - it always works better. Upgrades are supported - and yes RC2 is a BETA version, not a production version of the OS and as such is timed for 180 days. You will have bought it by then, as going back to 98 isn't really an option. You will have moved into a new world of computing.
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Good luck.
You can do this, but remember that 9X drivers won't work on XP. If all your hardware makers have XP drivers, or if XP has in-the-box drivers, you can at least get up and running, but you will likely leave files from 9X drivers lying around on your system. If at all possible, back up what you have, and do a clean install.
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