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Idea submittal and voting have come to a slow crawl or stopped altogether so we'll just say its time to chose the final three projects.
We could go just by the current voting result (see below), but I think its only fair that we re-evaluate what we would really like to do. Before doing so, I'd like to give you my opinion of what we should do and I know at least Paul and Marc will agree with me. I'm not going to endorse a particular project, but rather an ideal for our first stab at this. Its called...
KISS (keep it simple stupid)
Whatever project(s) we choose to do, it's/their scope needs to be somewhat limited (initially for release 1.0). Rome was not built in a day and CPPs are sure to fail if we try to do too much too soon. Heck, the infrastructure for large group projects isn't even in place yet. So we have a lot of thinking to do before we "dive right in."
Here is how I propose we proceed:
1) Decide on 3 projects via voting (now until Tuesday) which gives us 24+ hours
2) Pick a project leader for each project (preferrably, the originator of the idea AND someone with experience writing articles and managing a herd of cattle )
3) If you want to, we can pick a CPP coordinator who will look after these first 3 projects, but I doubt we'll need one.
4) Divide up into teams (I have an idea on how to do this but we'll discuss later). There may be lopsided teams.
5) Start an article for each project. NOT QUICKLY THOUGH! I'd like to see us decide on a standard layout and "features" in our project article. Its going to have to be different somehow than a standard article (I see tables ).
6) Project leaders and team members will then need to define the scope and timeline for the project. A design document would be very nice. Anyone have a nice Design Doc template?
7) Here's where the fun begins. Start coding. Project leaders should be good delegators.
8) Try to stay within the scope and timeline, giving frequent updates and screen shots.
If you have any different ideas, please discuss them by replying to this message.
Below this message you will see a thread for PROJECT VOTING. Within that thread are 10 messages with the title of each project. Please give a vote for each message using the message voting system. The top 3 after Tuesday morning will be our beginning projects.
CURRENT RESULTS: (top 10 with 50 volunteers)
Score, IDEAS for CPP, (# votes)
4.4 Universal Gui LibrarY (UGLY) (30)
4.3 Application Framework (13)
4.0 ASP.NET web controls replacement library (14)
4.0 Alife/AI (13)
3.8 Defect Tracking/Source Versioning (16)
3.6 threads and multi-processors (6)
3.5 CP Community Tools (15)
3.5 online task manager (5)
3.1 Code snippet library (5)
3.1 project management system (4)
Please keep the noise level to a minimum so we don't confuse too many people with a long, convoluted thread. Also, I recommend changing your CP forum display options to 50 messages per page.
I think this is the longest message I have ever written. Probably until Tuesday anyway...
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Please vote for each project idea and refrain from replying to the message.
Thanks.
Since I created these messages, I can't vote.
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Just vote please. No comments.
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Just vote please. No comments.
Jason Henderson My articles
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No comments please. Just vote.
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Again, no comments please. Just vote.
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I shouldn't have to say it again.
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Remember what I said...
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comments = no
vote = yes
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don't make me smack you! get away from that Reply link!
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I show you a snippet if you reply to this message. Don't even...
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First of all, I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing by replying here.
Second of all, here's my thoughts:
Jason Henderson wrote:
Idea submittal and voting have come to a slow crawl or stopped altogether so we'll just say its time to chose the final three projects.
My thoughts exactly.
Jason Henderson wrote:
Universal Gui LibrarY (UGLY)
Please, not UGLY! That's the opposite of what we want! How about SUIT - SmartUI Toolkit.
Also, if we do a UI Library first, then it's easy to start out simple - do it one control at a time . We can stop any place along the way.
Jason Henderson wrote:
Divide up into teams (I have an idea on how to do this but we'll discuss later).
I have an idea too... later.
Jason Henderson wrote:
Project leaders and team members will then need to define the scope and timeline for the project. A design document would be very nice. Anyone have a nice Design Doc template?
I have some ideas and questions - where shall we discuss it?
GOOD JOB, JASON!
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
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jdunlap wrote:
First of all, I hope I'm not doing the wrong thing by replying here.
No, you're fine. I just don't want submessages clogging up the voting area.
jdunlap wrote:
I have some ideas and questions - where shall we discuss it?
Right here if you like.
Jason Henderson My articles
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jdunlap wrote:
Please, not UGLY! That's the opposite of what we want! How about SUIT - SmartUI Toolkit.
But that's the reason we like it...it's funny.
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer.
People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage...
-Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
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UGLY is just the opposite of what we want - we want something that looks nice. Would you buy a toolkit that's called "UGLY"??? I think we should have a vote on this one.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
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jdunlap wrote:
buy a toolkit that's called "UGLY"???
Ummm....I thought this was going to be a CP thing...and thus free. Besides, we're all coders...we all have a sense of humor. If we see a GUI toolkit that's called UGLY, we're gonna take a look at it just to see what it's like anyway.
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer.
People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage...
-Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
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UGLY is fine with me.
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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What if we add some letter so it is easier to find with Google?
UGHLY or
UUGLY or
UUGLI
"UUGLY graphics" gives only two hits on google. We could monitor how much it is used, just by a simple search.
jhaga
CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote:
...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner.
...Good heavens!
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But that doesn't have the same effect as UGLY.
BTW, what's up with your sig? I mean, what does *c.* represent? I saw that post...and there was nothing bad with the words that Paul used.
Hawaian shirts and shorts work too in Summer.
People assume you're either a complete nut (in which case not a worthy target) or so damn good you don't need to worry about camouflage...
-Anna-Jayne Metcalfe on Paintballing
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David Stone wrote:
and there was nothing bad with the words that Paul used.
I reckon it is because, as I am wont to blather on and on, the original did not fit in the 500 character limit of signatures. So he cut out the un-needed bits.
Also "Anna waving her *c*" does sound rather nasty.
Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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You are right on both topics. *c.* is only there because I had to shorten it down to fit into 500 chars.
But we could do some test voting on that name, just to get some experience on how it works.
jhaga
CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote:
...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner.
...Good heavens!
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And definitely not a Smart Hip Integrated Toolkit.
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"The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed."
-- Abraham Lincoln
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I hope this forum is open for discussions once the voting is over? I mean like a normal message board where you can start threads at the top. Every time I press "Next" in this forum, it takes many minutes before I see the next page.
jhaga
CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote:
...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner.
...Good heavens!
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