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Hello CPians,
another thread about that virtual company? Yes, because I think it IS a good idea. I like the idea since I first read about it here and I followed all the discussions. So what next?
For the long term, I think Marc Clifton is right. All our efforts should end up in a real company, where everything is well defined. Sure, why not buy in and be part of a successful running business? But in my opinion, it isn't possible to start right that way. There is too much to do, interested people should meet and discuss all this stuff and there would be no success without professional help in law questions.
But why keep things so complicated? I for my part lost my job because my employer ran out of money. I had to decide to start my own business and take our clients to me or to look for a new job (there aren't so much here in Germany). I started my own business and now I'm a freelancer in software development. So, wouldnt't it be a good choice to start our teamwork? There are other programmers out there looking for help in projects and there are programmers out there looking for a contract. So hy not bring them together?
I created a group on MSN just to do this. My intention was to provide a place where interested programmers could sign in, provide a profile what they want to do or tell about their experiences and let things go. When I have to look for help, I could start there, pick up the most interesting candidates and talk to them directly about work and hour rates.
When things work, why not step further slowly to end up in a virtual company? But for now, that would be the right way for me - just to start something.
If you are interested, just drop me a line and I'll send you an invitation for the group.
Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch c++ & c# programmer from germany
If IntelliSense doesn't have it, it ain't worth calling - Anonymous
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Hello Heinz,
What you say makes sense. It's a good start, and I'm particularly impressed that you've done something, rather just "talk the talk". I was going to suggest that I could create a category on a forum I'm hosting to discuss this concept, but then I read that you already have an MSN group.
In any case, I'm interested, so I'd love to receive an invitation to join the group.
I'm curious about one thing though--how do you (and do you, in fact) plan on differentiating your idea from the consultancy web sites that are out there already? A lot of them focus on the idea of either finding someone to help with a project, or posting a project and seeing who "bids" for it. Any thoughts on the subject?
Marc
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Hello Marc,
thank you for your comments. I'd love to have you on board and the invitation mail should already be in your inbox.
I don't want to compete with consultancy websites. I'd like build a group of people who would like to work together with other members of that group. In the first step members should all come from CP, because they "know" each other. Later, group members could start having their friends, co-workers, ... join our group to broaden our experience and knowledge. There should be no contract and no arrangements provided by the group itself, all relationships should be arranged by the members among themselves. Perhaps, later, we could start to build some sort of a company out of our group where interested members could be part of that business.
Unfortunately, there isn't much respnse on that group so far. Perhaps you should try your forum category
Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch c++ & c# programmer from germany
If IntelliSense doesn't have it, it ain't worth calling - Anonymous
My compiler compiled yours - Seen on a VC++.Net T-Shirt
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I like your idea have been doing programming along with my team for quiet some time now.So would like to join your group and am very much interested in it.
Thanks
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Is there much activity in the group? How are things going? I wish you all the best.
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Not many people are interested in joining that group but perhaps we can build a small but interesting network together.
Why don't you want to join?
Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch
vahlbruch.net intelligent software systems
[email] [web]
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BTW, I just joined. I had meant to join earlier, but had trouble with my .NET Passport, then forgot about it for a time.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi
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I just wondered what happened, but I saw you on the member list. Thanks for joining
Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch
vahlbruch.net intelligent software systems
[email] [web]
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Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote:
Why don't you want to join?
Mainly because I'm afraid that once I commit, it may make exessive demands on my time, some of which I may not be able to fulfill. Besides, I don't know how to join. Third, there is no forum or anything where people can interact, is there, other than a mailing list? For example, if I want to look up more info on the members, ongoing/completed projects, etc before I join, how do I do that? Fourth, how are you going to ensure there'll be a proper incentive for people to stay? I mean, if the projects are coming at a good enough rate, people will be interested. If not, no one would be very interested for long.
How do you address these issues?
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Rohit Sinha wrote:
Mainly because I'm afraid that once I commit, it may make exessive demands on my time, some of which I may not be able to fulfill.
You don't commit yourself to anything when joining the group. You only show that you're interested in doing projects together with others. Only if you make a deal with someone to work on someone's project you'll commit to that person.
Rohit Sinha wrote:
Besides, I don't know how to join.
I would send you an invitation mail with the link to the closed group on MSN.
Rohit Sinha wrote:
Third, there is no forum or anything where people can interact, is there, other than a mailing list?
There is a forum where any member can start discussions and you can set the options to receive all messages per mail or read them on the website.
Rohit Sinha wrote:
For example, if I want to look up more info on the members, ongoing/completed projects, etc before I join, how do I do that?
There are possibilities in the group for the members to post information about themselves. It is neccessary to do so, so that other members know to whom they should talk about a project with specific skills. And you can ask the members directly.
Rohit Sinha wrote:
Fourth, how are you going to ensure there'll be a proper incentive for people to stay?
It's just a try. If there will be enough members with projects they need help with then it will work. If not, okay, we tried.
Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch
vahlbruch.net intelligent software systems
[email] [web]
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Hi,
Can i join?
i was in it from the start but somehow missed this new thread :/
//Roger
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Hi Roger,
sure you can join. Your invitation mail is on its way.
Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch
vahlbruch.net intelligent software systems
[email] [web]
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btw. I would like to join to the community you told there, Thanks, Bye !
Braulio
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Hi,
Mmmm... that's the dream of any programmer. The problem is that most of the time we have the ability of doing a very good job, but.. we are stupid people that doesn't have "contacts"... so we need to work for somebody that has no idea at all about software programming and that's all .
I have thought a lot of times about becoming a freelance, and now I'm thinking seriously about that, but the more I think, the more I realize ( at least here in Spain), it's quite difficult to get clients and to get money from them .
Maybe we should make an "school" to make programmers learn about the hard stuff... getting "contacts" .
Bye
Braulio
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Hi Heinz,
Your idea of this forum is interesting. I would like to join. Please send me an invite.
Thanks,
Hridesh
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Just released new forum app on my site programmingtutorials.com[^] written using ASP.NET (C#). Not much to the forums right now as far as functionality but any feedback as far as bugs, ideas, or suggestions is welcome! Thinking I would obviously need some sort of search as number of posts grew past my limit of 20 on datagrid paging?
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it looks nice!
perhaps add a date based selection..
Posts from Today
Posts from Yesterday
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Hi!
I and a friend of me, developed a software for searching duplicate entries in a database.
If you want to check your DB (and help me with the development ) please mail to me.
the app dont install enything to the windows folder, it need the MFC42.dll and GDIPlus.dll. the zip is about 1MB big.
if you test it, and have a question about how some part works, just ask.
the software is (for now) in german
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If someone want to test it, but cant read german, I can translate it.
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I'd be willing to test, but I don't have to many db´s that suffer from duplicate entries.
Youcan ping me at hauptmann at yahoo dot com.
"Vierteile den, der sie Hure schimpft mit einem türkischen Säbel."
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danke
Im working on an improved version, and after the changes are in, Ill contact you, OK?
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Ok before I ask anyone to help out with the game I'll just outline what has been completed so far.
Login, signup and travelling, battle engine has been completed.
The whole database is text based, 100% customised and has 16 bit encryption. Even the files are encrypted. Everytime a person logs in, signs up etc, this is decrypted using a key which is automatically generated. This is for security etc.
The travelling around involves this kind of process too.
The battle engine is text and is created in VBscript. With a few more modifications it will be ready.
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Ok, so what I need help with.
I'm looking for a coder who is willing to help out with this game. Modify the battle engine and create a gym so players can begin playing.
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Now what it is:
Its an online RPG. Medieval based. A player goes on quests to be the number 1 player and ranked in the areas available.
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As you can see, this is already a very sophisticated game and it has only begun. I'm asking for another coder because my friend was coding and I was just giving him ideas and creating the basis structure of things as I'm not a strong coder myself. He couldn't continue due to personal issues.
I can't give much in return other than a free domain hosting(doesn't include registration). This incluse 100mb space and 2gb transfer. But CGI,PHP,MySQL (only what the server supports). If I ever do intend to make some money, for servers predominantly as the bandwidth will probably shoot through the roof, I will gladly give some to you. To ensure I'm not ripping you off etc, just make a tracking system of profits/members/total. That way, you get everything you deserve.
Website has already been registered too.
http://www.warriors-legacy.com/ (nothing up yet)
If you wish to help or anything, reply or email me:
richardk@micronet.net.au
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how do i capture the image data or video frames from grabber card. can you
provoid some articals regarding to my que..
thank you...
mahajan yogesh
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i think, this is the wrong forum!
Don't try it, just do it!
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I'm just tossing a thought out here...but it sounds like the legal and logistical issues of forming a virtual company would be a nightmare. So, why not form a co-op. Build a centralized branding and location for customers to find one of the co-ops fine contractors.
Each contractor subscribes to a certain set of business rules set forth by the co-op and a such is autorized to do business under the group's branding. Behind the scenes, the co-op members, contractors, however you want to put it can "hire" each other at a set rate agreed to by the group.
This will give you the power of many under a single umbrella, plus you can share your work load with others. It will also allow folks to take on larger projects than usual. It will let the individual contractors keep there own business separate from the larger entity for legal or whatever other reasons too.
I have a larger vision in my head, but have to actually organize it a little better if people are interested in listening.
I'll add some more to this post in a little bit. I need to run and take care of something urgent at the moment.
Regards,
The Boolean Operator aka Boo
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