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I think it would be kind of handy to show the results of the survey displayed on the mainpage.
-Matt Newman
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If do as you wished, I think we will not see your vote at all.
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I have been rather successful developing with a combination of C++, ATL, and VB6, XML, and SQL Server. It may sound like a messy combination, but it allows me to push pretty robust stuff out the door quickly. I develop my core services and reusable components in C++ and build them to call plug-in style COM DLLs written in VB to do most of my data access and business logic. Using this method, I can quickly adapt my systems to deal with several different situations by writing new plug-ins to the system in VB.
Chris Cubley
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Well Flash ActionScript isnt exactly what i call a powerful language, but it does allow communication with web-servers with HTTP and XML
Nevertheless, I'd love to learn a whole lot more about DHTML and ASP which i have fairly limited knowledge about.
Works for me!
Cheers
p00ya [doe]
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That was one of my "other". For any who don't know, it's a cross-platform class library for C++. It doesn't have *all* the bells and whistles as MFC, but it works pretty well. Anyone else use it?
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Don't forget STL (a part of the C++ standard but worth a separate mention I think).
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I agree - I didn't mention it because I take it for granted that people *would* use STL, although discussions here have shown this is not always the case. It would be worthwhile to get an idea of how many people have *seen the light* as far as STL is concerned.
Christian
As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet.
Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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I've seen the light, yet my managers didn't, thus STL is banned
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Really ? Are your managers too stupid to get it, or scared of using something that doesn't come from Microsoft ?
Christian
As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet.
Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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I can't be sure, but I guess it's about scare to use and a little bit of deployment hassle(another dll to deploy).
They would not go for non-Microsoft STL, and Microsoft one has too many bugs to rely on it. That is how Microsoft kills the technologies - implement enought to rule out the competition, yet still tuneling you into their path...
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Actually, while I know the M$ STL is not perfect, it's always worked for me when I've used it. What problems have you found ?
Also I don't believe STLport's STL implimentation requires a dll.
Christian
As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet.
Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Well, what can I say - no problem either on my side. Not using it much thought. I don't know what dll they were talking about too.
Oh, well, life!
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STL itself is implemented as a bunch of header files. Therefore it does not need an extra dll. However, if you are working with multiple dlls, be aware that Visual C++ implementation of STL (prior to VC 7.0, in which that problem is supposed to be fixed) may give you a real headache . Of course, you can always download the SGI version of STL.
I vote pro drink
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STL itself is implemented as a bunch of header files. Therefore it does not need an extra dll.
actually, that's not entirely true.
if you use the MFC DLLs along with STL, you need to bring along an extra DLL (i forget which one, it's been a while) that contains a bunch of common STL vector specializations (vector of ints, etc.). this hit us hard a few months ago when we found out.
-c
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Smaller Animals Software, Inc.
http://www.smalleranimals.com
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Do you mean msvcp60.dll? This one is needed whenever you use C++ standard library (if you link run-time libraries dynamically).
I vote pro drink
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possibly.
but whichever DLL it is, you need it even if you're only using std::vector, std::sort and std::unique. in my opinion, it is an utterly ridiculous requirement.
yet another reason i dislike MS.
-c
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Smaller Animals Software, Inc.
http://www.smalleranimals.com
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... it is fun. Although, to be quite honest, I miss the times when I was in CAD development (OpenGL, SQL, ADO, AutoCAD, FEMAP,...)
I vote pro drink
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Unfortunately, working for the US government has trapped me into a nightmare of ADA programming. Don't complain about anything concerning Java or C/C++ or MFC or STL or Microsoft or Sun. Complain about nothing I tell you, until you've worked in a 2+ million LOC system developed in ADA by programmers with no experience in OOA/OOD.
When religion and politics help drive the same cart, they tend to drive faster and faster until it is too late to stop when they see the cliff ahead -- Frank Herbert.
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That totally sucks.
Group hug for Steven.
cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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Are those who are using Java using it on the client or server? (or both?)
cheers,
Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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Replacing it with C# here. It never really lived up to the hype. C# in it's first incarnation is better than Java today.
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At work: Server Java. At home: ATL and WTL.
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Server Side Java is more than ENOUGH, dont let it come to client side
Farhan Noor Qureshi
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Server only. Write/Test the code on Win2K; painlessly deploy to HP-UX.
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