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Absolutely!
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yes same here, why is that not getting a higher vote?
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I checked with the mirror, and you are wrong.
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Must have been misted up
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You should upgrade your mirrors to MS Visual Mirror 2022 (TM). This release consists mostly of reflected image improvements and nicer icons...
You will love the new look.
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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The results aren't surprising to me. I based my response on the group of devs I know.
In the six 'work-related' categories, there are few of us that really possess all six aspects; that is a rare duck. Problem solving is relative; some are excellent at code problems and some are better at practical solutions.
I'm not the picky, obsessed person. I need someone who is to review that aspect for me. I'm laser focused at times, but like my dog, those squirrels can be really pesky.
Having even a small team is helpful as we all have our strong and weak points.
But I'm going to give @cpichols answer the top score for being a "walking party"
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MikeCO10 wrote: I'm not the picky, obsessed person.
You may not be, but I am
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Except solitary which got a 3.
Among skills, I do not find most programmers to be excellent problem solvers, imaginative, creative, picky, picky, logical, smart or focused. There are some notable exceptions of course, but the exceptions prove the rule.
As to good looking and having a fashion sense and fun at parties, a 3 for fashion sense and fun at parties. Ridiculously good looking got a 2, unless you count Hollywood programmers.
Cynical me this morning!
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Yeah, I am of the mindset that most developers/programmers have a false sense of self-image and are really not as great as they think they are.
I also find that most developers and programmers are socially retarded; including myself, sometimes, but that was not a poll option.
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Give me a beat and imma dance. Give me a song I love and I'll sing as well. I know how to 'work a room', gliding around to touch base with everyone there, but I also know how to sit alone in silence which is why I do well with solitary work.
I wonder how these answers vary by the sexes
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I find that the fastest way to clear a room at a party is to start talking about my work.
Da Bomb
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How much of an American or Anglo-American stereotype is it that developers are lonely, nerdish, terrible with clothing/fashion, etc.?
What about other places like mainland Europe, Asia, etc.?
Yeah, developers I know in India are also somewhat smarter, more focussed, etc. than the average person but most people in my company dress well, are extroverted, etc.
Well, my wife might disagree on the well dressed part...
Cheers,
Vikram.
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Cultures vary greatly in dress code, even among neighbor countries. If I came to work in a suit and tie, my co-workers would stare at me, thinking that I was trying to pull a joke. A Swedish friend of mine told that he every day goes to work in suit and tie. Norway and Sweden are not just European countries; both are Scandinavian countries. We understand each other's language. We had the same king for more than ninety years. Yet dress codes at work (as well as a number of other formal aspects at work) are very different.
Years ago (before Windows!) I worked for a Norwegian company that sold computers to US customers. Norwegian service guys who went to handle the installation arrived at the site in T-shirt and blue jeans. All the Americans wore suits. The first night, the Norwegians were invited to a welcome party, and arrived in their suits - they had brought suits along, for formal social events. The Americans were all in T-shirts and blue jeans ... So for the rest of the stay, they switched their wardrobe around, going to work in their formal party clothes, and to parties in their work clothes.
Cultural differences cover a lot of aspects, not only dress codes. Who can you talk informally to without being concerned about rank? Which subjects are acceptable for informal talk? How do you greet others? When is it appropriate to ask questions for clarification? How much personal pride can you display? How much are you expected to assist your co-workers, and to ask co-workers for assistance? ... And a hundred similar concerns.
Your behavior can only be judged as 'picky' or 'rude' or 'caring' or 'polite' or ... relative to the local culture. 'Local' may be far more local than the entire country. Every company may have its frame of reference for appropriate style, whether in dressing, professional talk, social talk, lunch habits, or whatever.
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Thanks for the detailed reply.
Yes, no programmer shows up for work in a tie and suit here in India. Most don't even own one.
Anyway, yes, it seems that the stereotype of a programmer being socially awkward, dressing badly, etc. is mostly an American one.
Cheers,
Vikram.
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Master of at least one programming language.
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Master of the obvious already would be an improvement.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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It is not obvious, looking at the quality of some of those who come for attending interviews.
I had seen one person who said that he knows Windows, and I assumed that he knew Windows programming, using the Win32 API. But all he knew was how to use Windows, from a user standpoint, much similar to an office clerk; and he called himself Software Developer. So, nothing is obvious.
modified 14-Apr-22 9:13am.
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Pick 2
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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We are humans not orks. You can see strange people in all walks of life. The profession doesn't matter on these behaviours.
Fun on partys? Currently i don't have fun on partys. It seems to be a tradion telling on birthday celebrations about death (who died) and how ill they are. Not to mention all strange behaviour caused by Corona and hobby doctors studying on the google university.
And fashion doesn't play a big role. Except for Louis Vuitton bags and women's.
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I think of the mathematicians I hung out with at Uni, or the geomorphologists and data modellers during my post-grad studies, and everytime I see a mathematician, physicist, geologist, or indeed a pub owner portrayed in the media it always irks me how they always slide into their stereotypes. Double worse for women in science.
So instead of being incensed every time a guy on a keyboard (and it's usually a guy) is shown as a cardboard cutout I thought I'd ask you lot. Is that how we see ourselves? Do we truly relate to that, maybe even a bit? Are there traits that are actually pretty common to us all? Or are we just like everyone else: kinda ordinary in our own special way.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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> So instead of being incensed every time a guy on a keyboard (and it's usually a guy) is shown as a cardboard cutout I thought I'd ask you lot.
Oh no, I am not a friend of outrage especially since corona I heard too much of it.
So I follow the matrix philosophy: I can show you the way but you have to go all alone.
> Are there traits that are actually pretty common to us all?
Thats the wrong question for me. Except for my love to science.
I am special. I live softly decadent optimised for quality. I don't like cheap things if they doesn't fit my quality claims. No cheap food, cloths, furniture, car. And I'm in a sports club.
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