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Yes! I'm very excited about .NET 2.0
I started using the beta version of the .NET Framework that was available for download, and I really enjoyed coding in C#, but I still have a lot things to learn about it, I haven't done much from then.
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In my daywork,vc6.0 is my develop tools,
I don't have much time on .Net.
but I will use .net when my job need it!
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As with all MicroSoft products, nothing matures until version 3.0.
I'm still knee deep in DevStudio6 C++ ATL coding and I can wait a while for the good stuff.
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It'll probably be quite a while before 3.0 is released. Most changes to class libraries aren't big enough to justify a major version number change. Heck, look at J2SE - they changed their next release from 1.5 to 5.0 because they don't plan on upgrading it enough to justify a major version number change. And, if .NET did pump out major version changes, I'd be kind of worried about backwards compatibility. Not that Microsoft has been historically worried about it, which is one major reason that I like their software - they're not afraid to leave bad technology behind. It's a small sacrifice to pay for innovation.
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Flanakin wrote:
they're not afraid to leave bad technology behind
Huh? Are you talking about the same Microsoft as the others here?
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.NET 1.0 - Yuck!
.NET 2.0 - Yawn...
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I will prefer to put it as:
.NET 1.0 - Yuck
.NET 1.1 - Yawn...
.NET 2.0 - Yo!
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<hommer>
humm .NET 2.0 yummy. doh
When death smiles at a man, only thing he can do is smile back at it.-Gladiator
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I am logged in but how do I take part in a survey ? I only see the results, even for the currentone.
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I will be looking forward to taking the new C++/CLI for a spin, although im not to sure if this is part of .Net 2.0 to be released at the same time or just part of the next Visual Studio 2005..
Who else here is looking forward to using the new C++/CLI?
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There are quite many happenings. Mono has reached version 1.0.4 and is now quite robust and capable. Now Microsoft is definitely not the MONOpolist!! They need to tie up their laces and get ready for fierce competition ahead. Mono releases (like other GNU-GPL tools) are quite frequent now. Best of Luck MS, (MS leads in UI features, documentation and easse of installation as of today) Hope you have something to offer that will give an edge...
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So you're very excited about .net 2.0 then?
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
So you're very excited about .net 2.0 then
Of Course! It will be quite an anxiety to see what MS comes up with!
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anxiety
n 1: a relatively permanent state of anxiety occurring in a
variety of mental disorders [syn: anxiousness]
2: a vague unpleasant emotion that is experienced in
anticipation of some (usually ill-defined) misfortune
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Hey Jörgen thanx for correcting that word usage! My GRE verbal score got really low... Hope it doesn't cause any confusions or misconceptions and that this message doesn't have ne such mistakes!!
May be I can say 'I'm looking forward towards it.'
'Simple Sentence Simple Meaning'
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1. A state of uneasiness and apprehension, as about future uncertainties.
2. Psychiatry A state of apprehension, uncertainty, and fear resulting from the anticipation of a realistic or fantasized threatening event or situation, often impairing physical and psychological functioning.
3. Eager, often agitated desire: my anxiety to make a good impression.
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How about the platform itself... oh... and version 2.0... oh... and a decent development enviornment to go with it...
I had to do a double take when reading this.. I assume you were being sarcastic, correct? Because VS .NET 2k3 and VS2k5 are the best development tools available. The only other tool to rival it is Eclipse, but that is in the Java environment.
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Drew
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afinnell wrote:
I assume you were being sarcastic
No. I wasn't. But you have misunderstood what I was saying. The poster of the first message in this thread was stating that in the near future Microsoft will have nothing special to offer when compared to open source CLR/CLI projects like Mono and Portable.NET. I was basically saying that yes, Microsft do.. i.e., Microsoft have v2 coming out, a decent development enviornment to go with it (compared to the development enviornmants that Mono and Portable.NET supply)... That make it clearer?
afinnell wrote:
VS .NET 2k3
Is brilliant, I love it.
afinnell wrote:
The only other tool to rival it is Eclipse
I completely disagree with that. IMHO Eclipse doesn't come close... it's too slow, too disjointed, and generally just too cumbersome. I personally think that an IDE should integrate well with the technologies and enviornment that you are developing for (with the obvious exception of IDEs for cross-platform compilers)... eclipse doesn't do this.. partly because it is not an IDE (it's a plugin framework IMO) and partly because it is designed to be generic, so by nature it doesn't integrate well with the enviornments that are being developed as you need lots of plugins for it to integrate (with the noteable exception of custom IDEs built ontop of Ecipse like the WebSphere IDE).
Regards,
Brian Dela
Now Reading: Code Complete 2ed[^] by Steve McConnell
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Much clearer.
I completely disagree with that. IMHO Eclipse ...
I'm not sure I've found any other Java IDE that is as usable as Eclipse. I don't know what you mean by 'slow'. Most of the other IDE's use Swing (JBuilder and NetBeans for example) and they are unbearable as I am very quick while developing. I find JBuilder completely intollerable and NetBeans too confusing. Eclipse 3.0 has a clean interface with quite a bit of the refactoring tools that are needed including JUnit and Ant support. I suppose one of the double-edged swords about Eclipse is the amount of plug-ins you may need to accomplish what you need. I believe it to be a great benefit because I wouldn't want an IDE that throws the kitchen sink in, however I like the idea of integrating X-Doclet, Lexical anaylzer's, JUnit, and the like when I need them.
Just for my curiosity could you name an IDE for java that you deem better than Eclipse? Also if you could point out some differences between the IDE's that you believe make your choice better. I realize I there is quite a bit of subjectivity for my reasons of liking Eclipse. Hopefully we can discuss objective reasons for one over another.
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afinnell wrote:
I don't know what you mean by 'slow'
When I said slow I was not comparing it to other Java IDEs. On my machine in work, Visual Studio, even with a good few plugins loads in a few seconds. Eclipse with the plugins that I need to develop Java or C# can take anywhere up to 45 seconds to load.
While I haven't used it, some of the guys here in work use "IntelliJ IDEA" and after using it they said they would never go back to using Eclipse... they cite the same reason that I have a problem with about Eclipse... lack of integration with the language and environment (by environment I mean the technologies, like J2ME, J2EE etc, not the platform).
Anyway, I don't do much Java development, although hat is about to change, so my views are only based on the short amount of time that I have spent programming with Java. Also, Eclipse is NOT an IDE. Eclipse with plugin framework and when you add a load of Java plugins (J2EE e.g. Lomboz, J2ME, etc) then becomes an IDE... and IMHO, it becomes a disjointed IDE.
As I said, I'll be doing more Java dev in the near future. I'm not sure if I will end up using Eclipse as the development environment will be decided by the project lead, but if it's Eclipse, then I will not have a problem with it.
Regards,
Brian Dela
Now Reading: Code Complete 2ed[^] by Steve McConnell
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Well, like the people at microsoft said: Mono is a real good platform for linux development. And it could lead to a greater marketshare for unix/linux operating systems.
Mono really makes development for linux easier. I stick with windows though, because that platform is used the most. And my customers don't use linux as their operating system.
I sure did investigate the possibilities of mono, and their big!
"Every rule in a world of bits and bytes can be bend or eventually be broken"
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ad MS leads in UI features, documentation and easse of installation as of today:
god with us, _this_ is the worst fact - the best vs good
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Personally, I think the Mono project opens things up for .NET, which is good for everybody. As a Microsoft developer (not employee, just in the development sense), I can now write cross platform applications, and my client base has expanded because of it. A customer can go the cheaper route of using Linux, where I can write a .NET web or windows application.
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