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I can see about 6 inches infront of my face, and i'm only 16 - and it wasn't caused by computers. I've had bad eyes since i was born, the only good thing is when my parents complain about me programming too much and that it will damage my eyes i can say 'but they were already like that'  .
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I first needed glasses more than 11 years before the Apple II was introduced! 
Dale Thompson
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Ditto. Mine were all the time in 1968. Prior to long term time on a CRT.
"Simplicity is more complicated than you think. But it’s well worth it” (Ron Jeffries)
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Hi
I am 45 years old and after 20 years in front of a monitor i had vision problems. Now i made a cataract surgery. I read about it and founf that ultraviolet may cause cataract.
Have this in mind
regards George
George
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I didn't know monitors emitted UV light...
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
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K(arl) wrote:
oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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So I'm safe, at least for this.
I wear UV-protecting contacts, so...
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Have you been an idiot all your life, or have you recently had a lobotomy?
Just an off night, I assume...
This is as relevant a question as any relating to carpal tunnel syndrome. Staring all day at a CRT has definite negative effects on vision, and it's an issue that we all have to deal with. How we deal with it is valid to ask, as our options are often limited, and it's good to know what has worked for others.
Dude, I've seen you post better... get off the high horse and back on your usual track! You're smarter than this...
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Roger Wright wrote: Staring all day at a CRT has definite negative effects on vision, and it's an issue that we all have to deal with.
Not those of us who work on LCDs all day. 
Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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There is a Suggest a Survey link on the survey pages. Maybe you need glasses eh
Many people have submitted survey questions over the months and years and Chris has used them.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
Colib and ilikecameras.
K(arl) wrote:
oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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CodeStalker wrote: The site is a less interesting place to visit with crap like this on the cover...
Software Zen: delete this;
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I had missed your original response before it got nuked, but after reviewing some of your past posts, you are one angry dude. Why be so negative? How about refraining from spilling your negativity on those of us trying to get a little enjoyment from a survey that definitely affects most of us. Much appreciated.
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At least you can use my glasses as that if they aremade with "normal" glass.
A good choice of frames and some additional money for betterglass can work wonders, though.
I wouldn't go contacs because I just can't stand anything near my eyes, and watching other people fumbling them in, fumbling them out, or searching them is already painful to watch (heck, I have problems finding my glasses without my glasses, how am I supposed to find contact lenses?)
Laser surgery - I was thinking about that, but the last time I checked for new glasses, the guy in fromt of me told his horror story (He started of worse than me, but 3 surgeries by then, another one "strongly recommended", and "you will need (weak) glasses for the rest of your life anyway"). No thanks.
Further, I think I look (more) awkward without glasses, and I have a tendency to bloodshot eyes which I continually convince myself is partially covered by the glasses.
We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
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peterchen wrote: A good choice of frames and some additional money for better glass can work wonders
Indeed. My lenses aren't even glass (most aren't anymore), they're some high-tech plastic. The frames are just enough material to hold the lenses in place. The end result is a pair of glasses that weigh a tenth of what they did 20 years ago.
peterchen wrote: I wouldn't go contacts
I've tried wearing contact lenses twice and given up each time after a few months. It turns out there are two types of astigmatism, one due to the shape of the eye, and the other due to the shape of the lens in the eye. Unfortunately I have both types, and contact lenses only can correct for the one type. I end up with poor focus, even with perfect correction in the contact lens (which usually isn't the case anyway). Poor focus causes eye fatigue, headaches, etc.
peterchen wrote: Laser surgery - I was thinking about that, but the last time I checked for new glasses, the guy in front of me told his horror story
Success with laser correction seems to depend upon getting an honest practitioner who has done a lot of procedures. The good ones will do a comprehensive evaluation beforehand, and will give you an idea of what to expect. Some people simply aren't good candidates. I would bet the guy in front of you went to one of the el-cheapo drive-thru vision correction places, and things went downhill from there. My optometrist told me that a poor initial procedure can often not be corrected through later procedures.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I wore glasses since I was 6 yo. I had both astigmatism and myopy (about 6.5 points on both eyes). A couple of years ago, I had laser surgery, and I can say it's the best thing I've done for myself in all my life.
The surgery was a complete wonder... It lasted less than 10 minutes, didn't hurt a bit, it didn't matter if I moved my eyes or my face, and I got out seeing more than I did when I got in. Absolutely incredible. Also, it cost about 1000 bucks, both eyes, all the pretests and postests included. The laser was preprogrammed, according to the test results, so the surgeon only watched and waited for the machine to complete the procedure (no risk of human failure).
That very night I was able to go to the movies. A week later I could even swim. It took about 5 months for my eyes to get full 20/20, but it's the expected recovery time (about 1 month per diopter).
I wore glasses for more than 20 years, and now I'm finally free (yeah, it sounds melodramatic, but it's the truth). The only thing I'm sorry about, is not having done it before. It has really changed my life.
If you are a moleman, like I was, don't overthink it. It's a wonder. Just go ahead and do it...
-- modified at 12:02 Monday 28th November, 2005
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I've been wearing glasses for about 20 years and am considering laser surgery. But over here it seems to cost about US$3500... so unless i'm guaranteed not to need glasses for a long LONG time I may just hold off for now.
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Well, my occulist said that the surgery is for life. The only reason my eyes can get bad again is of old age (and that is normal). It's really worth every single buck.
You should contact your occulist, and ask every question you have in mind. My advice is to put fear aside, and go for it.
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I think I may have a good suggestion for you. If you have no problem traveling to Axis of Evil I suggest you to do your surgery in Iran. I done it and it cost for me only 600$. I know many foreigners from Europe and India travel to Iran for such a surgery. You may take a look at http://www.noorvision.com/english/ for more information.
However its a friendly suggestion and no advertisement! This surgery changed my life because I couldn't do anything without my glasses. But now I think I have more freedom in my daily life and I am more handsome .
-- modified at 5:12 Thursday 1st December, 2005
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I get suspicious when I see laser eye surgery specialists wearing glasses - if it's so safe, why haven't they had it done themselves? I wouldn't burn layers of skin off my hand with a laser, so I'm be even more dubious about burning layers off my eyes. One mistake and it's a white stick and a labrador for the rest of your life.
Tread carefully.
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
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I've been working full-time in front of a computer screen developing software for over 20 years, I'm 40 years old now, and I do not wear glasses. If I work on a computer for 16 hours straight my eyes may get tired, which tells me it's quitting time.
As for the medical community, it sounds to me that the jury is still out on whether computer use can damage your eyes. One online reference reads, “computer usage has not been conclusively shown to cause permanent damage . . . there is evidence to suggest that small vision defects . . . may start to cause problems when carrying out more visually demanding tasks. In other words, computer screen use could exacerbate existing conditions . . .” http://www.healthyeyes.org.uk/index.php?id=87
T-luv
You don't spit into the wind... Jim Croce
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T-luv wrote: and I do not wear glasses.
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I have been able to stay glasses free for years now. Every time I think I am having problems I go and get checked only to find out that, for the most part, I am even a bit better than 20/20.
I have a feeling that at some point my good luck will run out and I will take a turn for the worse though.
George Carlin wrote:
"Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."
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If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the a**hole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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I had my regular eye checkup last friday and had a Glaucoma test while I was there. Instead of the old puff-of-air trick they used to do, they now anaethetise your eyeball and push a pressure sensor against it.
A numb eye is the weirdest feeling.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I hope you took advantage of the lazy eye by walking around outside with a lurch, moaning and eyeballing people.
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland
Colib and ilikecameras.
K(arl) wrote:
oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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