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Thanks Chris,
It looks like the site is overseas, so I imagine that it is difficult to deal with from a legal perspective.
In my mind, this is the worst type of abuse. Taking the best intentions of the wonderful people who build this community and exploiting it for personal gain.
Timothy Lee Russell
www.anatone.net
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A Whois investigation gives the following info. Looks like some chinese website.
[Querying whois.internic.net]
[Redirected to whois.bizcn.com]
[Querying whois.bizcn.com]
[whois.bizcn.com]
The data in this whois database is provided to you for information
purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or
related to a domain name registration record. We make this information
available "as is," and do not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a
whois query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful
purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1)
enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that stress or load
this whois database system providing you this information; or (2) allow,
enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited,
commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic
mail, or by telephone. The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or
other use of this data is expressly prohibited without prior written
consent from us. We reserve the right to modify these terms at any time.
By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.
Domain name: manbu.net
Registrant Contact:
mingpu
mingpu su manbu.support@gmail.com
023-65456382 fax: 023-65456382
chongqing xietai zhi
chongqing chongqing 400044
cn
Administrative Contact:
mingpu su manbu.support@gmail.com
023-65456382 fax: 023-65456382
chongqing xietai zhi
chongqing chongqing 400044
cn
Technical Contact:
mingpu su manbu.support@gmail.com
023-65456382 fax: 023-65456382
chongqing xietai zhi
chongqing chongqing 400044
cn
Billing Contact:
mingpu su manbu.support@gmail.com
023-65456382 fax: 023-65456382
chongqing xietai zhi
chongqing chongqing 400044
cn
DNS:
ns1.4everdns.com
ns2.4everdns.com
Created: 2003-05-29
Expires: 2008-05-29
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Why not check the referer and then show a page "you have tried to access the download from an unauthorized site, please go to codeproject.com"
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Hey Chris,
As you'd surely have noticed, they are directly linking to the CP images, so they are also stealing CP bandwidth. Maybe you could redirect all file requests from their domain to the badger-badger song - that will teach those rotten bastards a lesson
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What've you got against s, Nish ?
Software Zen: delete this;
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You may be right I may be crazy -- Billy Joel --
Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Maybe you could redirect all file requests from their domain to the badger-badger song
Gah! I'd only just got that one out of my head. Badger-badger-badger-mushroom-mushroom... argh, it's back!
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I'm going to change my servers hot link protection to that now.
Brad
Australian
- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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If they are legally out-of-reach due to their country-of-orgin, you may wish to ask the legal advisor as to what types of punishment you may (legally) unleash upon them. With all of the clever software people congregating around here can produce, I'd imagine some pretty imaginative and just retribution might be doled out.
As a for-example, I have an SMTP mailer that allows mailing of N copies of a message, with real (spoofed, or random) return address which was created/used to convince an organization to take me off their mailing list. Many proper request were simply ignored. When they received the multi-request with the message:
"You have ignored my requests to drop me from your mailing list. If 100 reminders to stop aren't enough, I can and will send a lot more."
They cooperated immediately. Not at all a denial-of-service attack, but rather, an attention getting mechanism from those who otherwise won't be bothered with cooperating.
Sometimes, the white-hat has to make use of the black-hat's weapons. Not all will agree, I'm sure - and would think me evil for the previous paragraph's contents. Would this violate the philosphy behind CP or reinforce it? Within the limits of the law, their's a lot to be said for pragmatism.
Balboos
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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No, I don't work like that. There are other ways.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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If there are other ways, that's great. I only meant to introduce the suggestion within the concept of their being not other ways. It's philosophically very touchy, reaching well beyond the computer world.
For myself, at least, I have not and then considered where the proper balance is between remaining true to a particular philosophy vs. a (true) greater good. How much is my decision influenced by ego (from either point of view). Somewhat off topic. Much like a Sci-Fi short I saw, some time ago: a person sent back in history to kill Hitler's mother before he was born. Presupposing that it would avert the horrid consequences of his existence, is it ethical? Or, closer to reality, I've been asked (as a vegetarian for 30+ years) if trapped on an island, would I rather starve than eat meat? When asked this, the only decent answer I could give was - 'whatever I say now isn't worth anything, since I'm neither stranded nor starving.'
I'm way off topic, that's for sure, but I understand the position. The theft of intellectual property is not life-threatening, so how much response is worth how much soul-tarnishing . . . if it is soul tarnishing. (Grin followed by thoughtful look).
Balboos
-- modified at 6:47 Monday 5th March, 2007
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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Balboos wrote: Or, closer to reality, I've been asked (as a vegetarian for 30+ years) if trapped on an island, would I rather starve than eat meat? When asked this, the only decent answer I could give was - 'whatever I say now isn't worth anything, since I'm neither stranded nor starving.'
Well said. It really bugs me when people make self righteous proclamations about how they'd act in life or death situations. While sometimes it's clear that they'd actually do what they said, in most cases it's obvious that they're just sounding off without having really thought through the consequences, or even knowing they're BSing to build themselves up.
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Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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Yeah, much better to Tag the idiots' site.
Brad
Australian
- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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I'm pretty sure you can issue a take-down request a little farther upstream from them, and have the ISP itself removed from DNS servers if they don't take care of it. No ISP I've ever seen wants to be taken off the air, so this might be an effective tactic.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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lol, their download links points to CP downloads!!
I think it's illegal; CM will surely look into it.
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As stated before, it is completely illegal for us. But non Western countries may not enforce this. If Chris Makes a break through then he should make sure to have every poster file a case against them for damages.
Brad
Australian
- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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Actually, now I've gone to look for it, I'm wondering how the source code for my BabyKeyboardBash application - only posted on CodeProject - has ended up on the following two Chinese sites too:
Link 1[^]
Link 2[^]
Interestingly, links to my articles (with my name still attached), appear on DevAsp.net, hivewiki.com, codeguru.cn, manbu.net (of course), and ecodebank.com, as well as yagah.sonance.net, www.codeproject.com.look-for.us, pagebang.com and securebar.secure-tunnel.com, which all seem to be crawlers that actually display a copy of the Code Project site. (I decided not to include direct links rather than give any of these sites further ratings with search engines)
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Here is a fast way to stop this site- notify Google, which is notorious for evaluating the content of sites on which it has AdWords. Google is particularly finicky over illegal activities, and robo-clicking. Therefore, I have no doubt that Google would forbid further AdWords advertising on this site if they were notified of the illegal actions. I can't believe anyone would stoop to such low-level stealing in the first place.
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I posted this question last week but did not get a valid answer.
I tried to play with the < font >, < sup >, and < sub > today and my name wont accept the whole thing, what is the max length of a user ID?
CleAkO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)
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50 characters.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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UserId is synonymous with Email Address right, anyway?
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Technically, no. Your user ID is your member ID, a 4 byte integer. Your email address is a 50 character string.
I figured I knew what he meant, though.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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You were correct in figuring.
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)
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When I try to find an old post of mine by searching, I dont get anything with the sub and sup tags in it. Have you thought of a way to perform the searches by stripping the HTML out of the name to match?
CleAkO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that." - Tommy Boy "Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)
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