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Could we remove them at some point? Like after the new system has been in place for a year?
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Intersting idea.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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This is currently in the General Programming section, surely as a database it should be in the Databases and SysAdmin section?
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I'm curious why there's a separate MySQL forum? We don't have an Oracle forum or a SQL Server forum, so why this one particular database?
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at a guess it's from when the LAMP-codeproject site was more isolated from the main windows based CP.
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Fixed. Thanks for the prod
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Excellent.
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I sometimes publish articles in a German developer magazine which refer to my online articles on CP. While suggesting a good online platform like CP, I expect a certain level of content quality.
One factor influencing this quality are those annoying Univoters like here[^].
Thanks to the good new feature 'bad-voting-trail', we now recognize Univoters.
At least for edited articles, it would be desirable to improve the way how Univoters are handled.
In my opinion it should be a more efficient way to remove such voting/message, rather than wait a certain amount of people who click the 'Vote to Remove Message' Link.
Maybe the following precautions would help, to reduce Univoters:
1) Accept voting only if
- Comment contains at least n words
- Comment contains not only dummy characters like ',' or '-'
2) Reveal the members rating behavior: let's display the average rating on the members profile page
3) Warn member if the average rating is less than n.n. Disable member if the average rating is less than n.n
Cheers,
Jani
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I agree with your point (1). This is a very simple heuristic that will not prevent legitimate 1 votes.
Your points (2) and (3) are another matter. What if someone is looking at new articles and decides they are worthless, and gives reasons? This almost sounds like a 1-vote quota. Besides, now you have to leave a message when you vote 1, so everyone can see who you are.
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I agree that a low average voting is by no means something negative - it only reflects your voting strategy.
What I meant to convey is rather a way to interpret such a voting by readers.
Point 3) should maybe only consider the removed votes.
Cheers,
Jani
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As to 2 and 3:
I expect my own average would be extremely low.
I look at the articles that catch my eye on the front page and I report the ones I find sub-standard.
I don't report uneditted articles that simply need formatting because I expect the editor to fix the major flaws.
When I report, I also 1-vote, and now give a message about why.
Any articles that seem OK I leave alone. I never vote 2-4 and rarely vote 5.
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1) Excellent idea. Will be available in the next release
2) This will help other mount vendettas, but won't really stop someone from downvoting
3) I can't do that because what if the member truly only goes after sub-standard articles? He's doing the community a favour.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Thanks Chris
1) Great
2) A low average voting is by no means something negative
3) Should maybe only consider the removed votes
Cheers,
Jani
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Chris Maunder, Thanks for this new feature.
It would be great, if members have to post a message for any vote (i.e., even if they vote 5). This way we not only know why they rate 5, but also prove article's worthiness from different directions (point of views).
By the way, The new name for univoter is tri-voter (those who vote 3).
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Chris Maunder wrote: 1) Excellent idea. Will be available in the next release
wowo hold on buddy, are you sure you are saying that ? If I'm not wrong then you are the same guy who said that there will be a voting war and something about shy when I asked for showing voting history. Now let me rephrase the situation, 'XYZ' posted a message, somebody gave him 1 and he can see who did that because of the comment, now he can open all poster messages, voting him/her down using 'asdasdsadas' content of new comment, which make no sense. Now think, if somebody wants to vote, then (s)he have to write a comment, thats irritating. Besides its a normal effect, these uni-voters are all over the internet. So either you have to keep it going as it is or have to use a better way.
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Have a click in any of the blank interior area of the menu take you to the Lounge.
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No, I won't complain about the location (I'll get used to it).
But I often hover over "Message Boards", wait for it to drop down, then move the mouse down to C#, and click. I could have sworn that I could click anywhere on the hightlit area before, but today I notice I have to click right on the C#, which is a rather small target.
Oh, I use IE7, if that matters.
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It works ok in FF2 and IE6, don't know about IE7.
Another funny: on IE6, the light green selection bar doesn't go all the way to the right edge of the menu.
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Try now
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Is there any way to mark a question as answered if you answered it yourself (i.e. found the solution and posted it!) so it doesn't appear in my Unanswered Questions list?
DaveBTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)
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Maybe you can answer that yourself.
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DaveBTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)
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The whole 'mark as answered' thing is getting fully revamped.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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