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Uwe Keim wrote:
Since we have a 'Lounge', we also should have a 'VIP Lounge'.
Uwe Keim wrote:
Don't know the criterias for that, but maye it helps to lower the noise in the Lounge
I reckon we need a "elevate thread to Lounge" system. Threads start off in the Foyer (or whatever) and in there it is just whatever goes that doesn't belong in the Soapbox. Then if enough people vote for a certain thread it gets elevated to the Lounge.
To many good threads in the Lounge are being pushed out of view by trivial or once-off-no-need-to-discuss-move-along-folks-click-the-link-and-gratify-yourself posts.
But lets not get too serious and pompous like Kur05hin or /.
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Hey, I like your "roomed" approach, even if this wasn't what you meant...
(Don't ask me how this could be done, this is just the idea)
We could have a virtual house containing a set of rooms all leading off from the main door: kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, library, etc. Each room would be for specific content (e.g. the kitchen would be for announcements, the bathroom for dirty jokes, the bedroom for off topic, etc), and could have individual topical areas within it (e.g. the library could have different sections for Visual C++, VB, Java, and what have you). But here's the good part - the house would be a huge virtual reality environment. Members would log in, adorn themselves with headsets and then open the front door to wlak into the house. Each person would have a customised avatar that could be personalised with their face, clothing, etc and even adopt a regionalised accent.
So if John wanted to let out some grief he's been having getting Windows to work, he can go upstairs into the bedroom and start bitching away - if anyone wants to join in they can walk up to him and start chatting. People can come and go as they please - just like a real life conversation. If things get heated between members think how cool it would be to have a virtual pillow fight or to sneak downstairs and steal a breadknife from the kitchen...
There would need to be some limits to freedom though - we wouldn't want virtual rape or anything like that, but you could still have a sense of interpersonality without it.
Who knows, maybe this is how CodeProject will look in five years time! 
An orgy in Tiverton... ({) `/\^^/\:p (Z) :$/\^^/\` (})
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Please CP admins post how often visitors come back to this site. With such cookies of yours (LastVisit), you should do something. That would bring amusing results...
(And of course, since you cook the user email as well, you know exactly who connects and when).
How low can you go ?
(enculage MS)
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I'm not completely sure of the stats myself but about 350,000+ people pass through the site every week.
Regards,
Brian Dela 
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Thanks Bro. That's an interesting figure but I am interested on the insiders stuff :
(cookies stats)
- how many UNIQUE visitors do we have each week out of these 350000 ?
- what is the time gap between two visits ?
(IIS stats)
- how long is their session ?
- in ratio, how many of them just browse the lounge ?
- in ratio, how many of them browse the programming forums ?
- in ratio, how many read only the latest posts ?
- in ratio, how many start reading CP articles after an answer in a forum (clickety) ?
We know about those who post, but we don't know about those who read. You know, as current CP bottleneck is searchability, I am willing to know what we could do to improve it.
I am sure we have interesting figures here.;)
How low can you go ?
(MS rant)
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Eh now.. come on... I don't know all that stuff... 
You'll have to wait for Chris or Dave to answer.
Regards,
Brian Dela
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One should never admit ignorance!
But thats something I was too stupid to learn.
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
I have a terminal disease. Its called life!
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Roger Allen wrote:
One should never admit ignorance!
Ah.. don't see why not. I don't have the information.. don't see that as ignorance.
Regards,
Brian Dela
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__Stephane Rodriguez__ wrote:
- how many UNIQUE visitors do we have each week out of these 350000 ?
Let me see, there is Nish, Paul, the other Paul, David, James, Michael, Brian, ... Should be just about a dozen or so
__Stephane Rodriguez__ wrote:
- what is the time gap between two visits ?
Nish - 5 Minutes
Paul - 15
Paul - 2 hours
David - 2.5 hours
...
I keep submitting “VB” as a Priority-1 bug, but apparently no one here knows how to fix it. Nick Hodapp, Semicolon
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How low can you go ?
(MS rant)
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__Stephane Rodriguez__ wrote:
We know about those who post, but we don't know about those who read. You know, as current CP bottleneck is searchability, I am willing to know what we could do to improve it.
While it is true that this information could be very informative to others you must also look at performance issues at larger view-point too. Another problem that may be faced is certain items in your list such as how many start reading CP articles after an answer in a forum could be extremely difficult to evaluate. This could also lead to having skewed results. However with all that said, it would still be neat to see.
Nick Parker
May your glass be ever full.
May the roof over your head be always strong.
And may you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you’re dead. - Irish Blessing
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Here's a brief snapshot. We no longer use IIS's logging since we don't need all the information it provides and it takes way, way too long to process the files (if the processing doesn't crash halfway through, that is). We've got our own custom logging that gives us the bare basics:
We serve over 350,000 unique (by IP) readers a month with 12 million pages called. We have over 4 million sessions, but unfortunately we don't have recent session info (at last check it was about 13 minutes on average)
The forum.asp page gets about 200,000 views a month - but this figure doesn't take into account how many messages are read, since many people use the DHTML view and some people have 50 messages per page while others have 10. The Lounge gets about 320,000 page views a month, but the lounge can also be accessed by the main forums.asp page (and again, there's the message view thing)
There are about 37,000 views of the 'latest articles' page, 365,000 on the search and about 700,000 for the homepage each month. Most people go to articles from the search or from the homepage.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I suggest creating a new section for code snippets where an author could simply dump code with minimal documentation. If enough interest is stirred up by his code, other CP members will encourage the author to write a proper article. Such code snippets will not be added to the authors article count. This will act as a furthur incentive to write a decent article.
Drinking In The Sun
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This has been suggested before. I believe Paul Watson went off to write something to do this. Not sure what ever became of it as it is a good idea.
Michael
"I've died for a living in the movies and tv.
But the hardest thing I'll ever do is watch my leading ladies,
Kiss some other guy while I'm bandaging my knee."
-- The Unknown Stuntman
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I believe Paul Watson went off to write something to do this. Not sure what ever became of it as it is a good idea.
*Paul slinks away*
If someone would just ban me from the Lounge I could get stuff like this done. 
Oh and happy birthday Michael (it is today right?.)
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Thats a really good idea actually....where if you knew exactly what you were looking for, but didn't want the whole donload unzip load into VC++ copy and paste you could just come here and copy and paste...
Like double buffering code for flicker free drawing...or how to prevent column resizes inside a CListCtrl.
SOunds good to me
"An expert is someone who has made all the mistakes in his or her field" - Niels Bohr
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We can rate articles. It would be nice have a way to express our appreciation for people who answer programming questions (in programming forums). Suggestion:
- The one who post a question in programming forum can mark an answer as "helpful", so the guy who answered the question gets a point. Only thread originator can rate an answer.
- When displaying information about CP members, in addition to number of posted articles CP can display a number of helpful answers. This value can be used when calculating membership level. I think number of helpful answers should be rated higher than number of posted messages.
Just my 2 copecks.
Vagif Abilov
MCP (Visual C++)
Oslo, Norway
Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros.
Tomasz Sowinski
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The problem is that this is easy to abuse (someone just needs to make multiple accounts, and keep rating themselves as helpful)
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Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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The same goes for article rating. As long as you can't convert rating directly into $$, I don't think people will waste their time on crearing multiple accounts and asking themself questions.
Vagif Abilov
MCP (Visual C++)
Oslo, Norway
Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros.
Tomasz Sowinski
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Vagif Abilov wrote:
The one who post a question in programming forum can mark an answer as "helpful",
This was already tried (a "this answer helped" link on every post) and got abused out of existence within a week. 
--Mike--
"I'd rather you just give me a fish today, because even if you teach me how to fish, I won't do it. I'm lazy." -- Nish
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I already posted it in the Lounge, and then realized it belong here. Number 1 in my wish list: I should be able to enter several signatures, and CP will randomly attach one of them to my message. There are so many brilliant quotes to choose from!
Vagif Abilov
MCP (Visual C++)
Oslo, Norway
Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros.
Tomasz Sowinski
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How about having a "[move]" link at the base of your own messages that lets you move your message and any thread below it to a different forum in the main set? I know you set the functionality was already there but you weren't able to use it yourself without taking on liability for the message, but surely you can allow authors to move their own messages? And if the message is part of an existing thread, moving it should replace it's old self with a link to the new thread for continuance.
This would help with wrongly posted messages (i.e. programming questions in the lounge) and also, more importantly, allow you to take a sub thread of a conversation out to a new thread to be discussed. For example if in my recent thread about American tourists someone mentioned a new backpack system they could reply and continue the thread on camping equipment elsewhere, or if a thread in the lounge about cheesecakes moved onto the topic of circumcision, the new line of conversation could be continued automatically in the Soapbox forum.
How about it?
An orgy in Tiverton... ({) `/\^^/\:p (Z) :$/\^^/\` (})
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Adding a feature that would modify a message by replacing it's contents with "go to this forum" yet would keep the original thread intact on the (allegidly inappropriate) forum doesn't help IMO. If one message is moved, they all should be moved, so if this were done then the thread starter would have the power of where to move the thread.
Problem here is that moving a thread to a new forum means the moved thread must appear at the head of the message list. At the moment there's no way to insert a thread based on posting date using our current threading model without going through the extremely time consuming process of rethreading the entire forum. The boards are optimised for quick insert/quick read, and so a full rethread of a forum such as the lounge can take 5 mins. IF we accept that messages that are moved end up at the top of the queue then people will post a message, move it to one forum, then move it back in order to keep the message at the top of the queue.
I prefer the current CP vigilante approach to wrong-doers 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I prefer the current CP vigilante approach to wrong-doers
Oh yeah! Tar & Feathers, Crucifixion, or just banishment to Hell[^]!
Norm Almond: I seen some GUI's in my life but WTF is this mess
Leppie: I made an app for my sister and she wouldnt use it till it was colorful enough
Norm:good point leppie, from that statement I can only deduce that this GUI must be aimed at children
Leppie:My sister is 25
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