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They aint going to delete unless there are several reports or if message is highly crossed the line.
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Xmen W.K. wrote: They aint going to delete unless there are several reports or if message is highly crossed the line.
The "line" is set to high, IMHO. Threads like: this one[^] or this[^] or this[^] (in fact pretty much any thread started by Michael Martin) do not belong to CodeProject.com and yet they are still here.
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I agree that the Lounge should be KSF, but I'm wondering what you expect to happen here? You do see the [Vote to Remove Message] link, right? Do you use it?
I'm not sure that Chris reads every post in the Lounge, so he might not see the posts you are referring to, unless you click that link. You must realize there is no CP person monitoring the Lounge 24/7, so it's not clear what you mean by "actually enforce it". When a problem is reported, it's always taken care of; it just might not happen in real time.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I don't want to be associated with the kind of discussions we are seeing in the Lounge.
If that's your attitude, then leave. If you really cared about CP, then stay, and work with other CP members to fix this problem.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: If you really cared about CP, then stay, and work with other CP members to fix this problem.
well said, 5 from me
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Hans Dietrich wrote: You do see the [Vote to Remove Message] link, right? Do you use it?
Yes, and I have never seen anything done about it.
Hans Dietrich wrote: When a problem is reported, it's always taken care of; it just might not happen in real time.
That has not been my experience at all. The Lounge is still full of the posts that do not belong on a site targeted to professional developers
Hans Dietrich wrote: If that's your attitude, then leave. If you really cared about CP, then stay, and work with other CP members to fix this problem.
I have been a CodeProject member since 2000 (officially joined in 2001, I think) and still feel it is the best developer community on the web. The Lounge and various Soapbox forums are just ruining that experience.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: The Lounge is still full of the posts that do not belong on a site targeted to professional developers
You seem to be under a misunderstanding here. The lounge is where we go to kick back from being developers. It's the area where you get to blow off steam for a bit, and the lounge is obviously incredibly popular as it's the most active area in the site.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: You seem to be under a misunderstanding here.
Obviously
Pete O'Hanlon wrote: The lounge is where we go to kick back from being developers.
That is pretty much OK with me.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote: It's the area where you get to blow off steam for a bit
That is *not* OK: "Posting Guidelines: The Lounge is rated PG. If you're about to post something you wouldn't want your kid sister to read then don't post it. No flame wars, no abusive conduct and please don't post ads."
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Well, I've not really seen anything today that I wouldn't say to my kid sister, so I guess it's a bit subjective...
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See here[^].
Also, as I said, the "kid sister" rule is not clear. Kids are nasty these days I just want to be comfortable with my boss seing the forums I am a member of.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I just want to be comfortable with my boss
is your boss female ?
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I just want to be comfortable with my boss seing the forums I am a member of.
I'm not married to your boss, so she shouldn't be offended by the joke you linked to of mine. BTW - kid sister safety is subjective; I'd say that sexual content was crossing the line, but there's a large gray area for the other posts.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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Is anybody forcing your to visit the lounge and the soapbox?
Just use the parts of CP you deem morally fit...
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It doesn't work that way.
The Lounge is the polite zone. It's the area deemed to be a place where you can relax and enjoy knowing something horrible isn't going to come up.
If you use the rule "don't visit what you don't like" then forums degrade to the lowest level of those still willing to participate. Everyone else leaves and moves on.
I'm setting the bar for the Lounge. If the bar is too high then those who wish for a lower bar can go to the SoapBox, or even the Back Room, or find a different site. The Code Project is for developers first and foremost.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: If you use the rule "don't visit what you don't like" then forums degrade to the lowest level of those still willing to participate. Everyone else leaves and moves on.
+5
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Chris Maunder wrote: If the bar is too high then those who wish for a lower bar can go to the SoapBox
Am I the only one that don't get it ? or may be you in hurry
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Hey, don't blame me. I'm not the one posting the objectional posts in the lounge. I'm neither for nor against it...
I'm just saying that you have a choice.
Pesonally, I think the whole issue is blown out of proportion and that people should have more important stuff to worry about than a few bad jokes.
"Sticks and stones may hurt your bones, but words will never harm you", I think the saying goes.
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One more thing: This has essentially nothing to do with the lounge, so just saying that the stuff should be posted in another forum (and then it would be okay) as Chris says Here[^] is not a solution to the original problem.
The best solution would be - as someone has already pointed out in another post - to have a dedicated joke forum. That way everybody entering that would know right off that stuff posted there is meant to be a joke and should not be taken seriously.
As it is now, I think people are confused as to the purpose of the lounge, the back room and the soapbox and what content goes where...
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I don't want to be associated with the stupid, idiotic, simpleton questions that are posted here by offshore morons either, but it can't be helped.
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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Bloody good answer. Oh wait, you meant me???
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
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If the shoe fits
I know the language. I've read a book. - _Madmatt
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Internet discussion boards are not democracies, no matter what popular belief might be.
You are, however, fully entitled to vote with your feet.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Both KSF and WS are entirely subjective: just because you don't like something doesn't mean you should be able to force your view on someone else. If you don't like what you see then report it. But if you're the only one, then it stays. If your attitude is that these posts are directly affecting you then leave though quite how that works is beyond me. You seriously think that a potential employer will hold you responsible for something that soemone else, entirely beyond your control, said or does? It's like saying you'll get fired for reading the wrong newspaper or for getting caught reading the wrong article. If you can't deal with that then perhaps you should leave. Good luck finding another forum as good as this or as well behaved as this one.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
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Unlike you, I am here under my real name.
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I'm not sure what that has to do with his statement too which I agree with Digital mans response
If you found an article in a newspaper that you dont like you dont read it. There are many threads here I dont like so I dont read them, if they are inapproiate then I cast the remove option and hope others do the same!
One of the biggest problems here is the translation / interpetation of humour from different countries
As barmey as a sack of badgers
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Don't be a twat: everyone knows my name: it is the same as my email address.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
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