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But that's what I see every time...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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All I see on your profile is "master debator" (ooo-er!) and "CEO of Wales"!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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That exactly was my point ! There are ways to bypass "one IP, one vote" limit, but why should that affect the legitimate users?
My first rule of debugging: "If you get a different error message, you're making progress." - PIEBALDconsult
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Richard Deeming wrote: If you haven't already created the accounts, and assuming no upper limit on the delay, it would take 262143.5 hours ≈ 10922.65 days ≈ 30 years to create 20 sock puppet accounts from the same IP address But then you are seriously limiting the number of developers within a company that can create accounts on CodeProject...
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Which is why I suggested a sensible upper limit and a reset after five days. It's hard to protect against sock-puppets without inconveniencing legitimate users.
However, as Griff pointed out above, IP-based restrictions aren't a great barrier to a determined point-whore.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Sandeep Mewara wrote: How do you suggest to handle a scenario where a single person creates 20 accounts from his laptop and then votes on an article using those 20 accounts?
A good old-fashioned slap?
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That would do... if caught.
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As OriginalGriff and Richard Deeming pointed out in this thread, my point was, there are ways to bypass "one IP, one vote" limit, but why should that affect the legitimate users?
My first rule of debugging: "If you get a different error message, you're making progress." - PIEBALDconsult
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Two main reasons
1. The more variation you get in voters the more likely the final score will be indicative of the general view. We observed, fairly regularly, that two people voting from the same company or household often voted the same.
2. Vote rigging is a lot easier if you are able to vote multiple times from the same IP. Obviously there are ways to get around this, but there are ways to get around most things in life. Merely putting this simple restriction in place drastically reduced the incidences of sock puppet voting.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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...can I have the "delete question in QA" privilege back? I promise not to use it for personal gain.
It's just the live stream spammers are back in QA, and that is about all you can see in there at the moment...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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OriginalGriff wrote: that is about all you can see in there at the moment...
I can't see any. What am I missing?
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Never work with animals, children or spammers...
All gone! (The "new" page was nearly full of spam, to the point you couldn't see other posts, honest!)
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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I was only going to see if I still had delete question privileges. I don't want to go to town on a "good" question.
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You do according to your profile page.
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Hmmm, that must go with my protector badge. Makes me feel all Super Heroish.
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That's why I added the bit about "personal gain"
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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I appear to have been bitten by a radioactive hamster - I understand the 'edit' and 'delete' but two questions, if you don't mind:
1) What dies the 'bomb' do? You can understand my reluctance to experiment with explosives...
2) Does this mean I have to wear my underpants on the outside in order to post?
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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1. Hover over the bomb and you'll see the tooltip. Wear goggles.
2. Typically, yes.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I'm on the tablet - I'm not going near the thing!
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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1) I'm quite glad I didn't go near it on the tablet...
2) ShoppingList.Add("underpants");
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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(2) implies that either you have none, and have been going commando all this time, or you have none clean enough.
Ewww.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Which of those three would you prefer?
That's the one then.
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Hi all,
Do any one have scroll lagging with this link http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cs/[^] for me its getting very slow scrolling. My machine is core i5 running @ 3.10 GHZ 4 GB Ram. does page need more than this configuration?. rest of the pages are fine.
_AKA_KSN_
modified 12-May-13 23:18pm.
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One of the frustrating things about starting a software business is getting my products known. CodeProject has one of the greatest user bases out there, yet because I don't have (or cannot afford) a marketing department, I can't get in on the advertising at the top of the page. I also can't post about my own products, so I'm stuck trying to get my word out without using CodeProject...
How effective are the ads really? CP probably works on either a pay-per-click or pay-per-impression basis which gets ignored by a majority of people anyway. I'm guessing 90% of your active user base never clicks the ads anyway, so the follow-through and ROI is probably pretty low for displayed ads.
I understand the reason for not letting businesses post articles about their own products, you are trying to push manufacturers into your revenue stream. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, CP is a free service that many of us enjoy thoroughly.
So the question begs to be asked, how to protect (or even increase) CP's revenue stream while giving your business members a greater exposure and follow through?
The CodeProject Market
A place where CP allows verified businesses to sell software components. CP gets a percentage of each sale, in exchange for a listing in the CP market. The CP market would allow me to introduce my products to a larger user base and have a good way to get it out there. This isn't the CP gallery where people just list products, prices, a short description, etc, this is a place to actually sell.
The challenge to introducing this would be requiring the business member to have a price that is at least as good if not better than what they would list on their website, and that the market listing could not just redirect somewhere else for the sale completion.
I know that this would require some additional infrastructure, account management, etc but I think the investment would work out well for CP.
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I could write volumes on this topic, especially if I included all the back and forth we've had on this over the years. Some worthy questions.
Ron Beyer wrote: How effective are the ads really
How long is a piece of string?
An ads effectiveness depends on many, many things, not least your definition of "effective". Usually this boils down to the return on investment you are expecting. For an ad to provide a good ROI you need to (obviously) have an ad that's appealing, that's shown to those it would appeal to, that attracts clicks and sends readers to a page that makes it easy to understand and purchase, and finally you need to price your product in a manner that attracts buyers while (at the least) covering costs.
Ads are very effective if you do them right. In fact we've dedicated an entire business to getting advertising right.
Ron Beyer wrote: I understand the reason for not letting businesses post articles about their own products, you are trying to push manufacturers into your revenue stream
The reason we don't allow a business to post articles about their own products is because CodeProject would very quickly be saturated with spam articles. However, we specifically do allow articles on Third Party products[^] as long as they abide by the rules.
Ron Beyer wrote: So the question begs to be asked
Thank you[^].
Ron Beyer wrote: The CodeProject Market
While this isn't quite what you're suggesting (ie it doesn't provide any revenue to us), we do have something similar in our Product and Services Catalog[^]. All free.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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