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The Grand Negus wrote: Agreed. "You will. You will."
Cool and I'll shuffle it off to someone else 
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YAGNI! 
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Matt Gerrans wrote: YAGNI!
Ya' Ain't Gonna Need It.... YES!!!! 
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Yoda earned his rank as Master. You self-appointed yours.
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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I've read the rest of your post, simply out of a morbid curiosity for your VERY flawed analogies...
The Grand Negus wrote: Consider: A guy is stopped on the road by a very beat-up clunker with a broken hose.
Funny, you've already judged his car without even having hit the brakes on your own yet. I don't see a guy with a beat up clunker. I see a guy whoses stranded because his car broke.
The Grand Negus wrote: I come along and point him to a friend who will give him a good deal on a new vehicle.
First, your new vehicle runs on something other than gasoline and I don't see too many alternative fuel stations around. Second, you have a vested interest in selling that car.
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: you've already judged his car without even having hit the brakes on your own yet
Better make sure your brakes work before judging the other car 
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: how does that solve his problem and get his project turned in?
Sticking to professional tools and not something that tries to communicate to the computer like it is HAL-9000 
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So long as it stays in the signature and doesn't spill in to the posts I don't have a problem with it.
I advertise developer events in my signature all the time (as you may have noticed). Scottish Developers are currently in the process of gearing up for next year so I've got a bit of a plea at the moment, (The last event I was advertising, until this morning, was Developer Day 4 - but the registration is now full and so is the stand-by list of 100) but when the event schedule starts to fill up for 2007 you'll see events.
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I don't know if you read the rest of this thread, but here's the problem.
Let's say the upcoming Scottish Developers Conference had as its primary theme "the overcomplexity and inefficiency of Microsoft development tools". Wouldn't it be hard to keep that thought from "spilling into" your posts? Wouldn't you be tempted to point out the connection when someone complained of complexity or inefficiency? And - even if you weren't - wouldn't the signature itself stand as a silent (and to many, an irritating) protest?
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The Grand Negus wrote: Wouldn't it be hard to keep that thought from "spilling into" your posts?
No. For example. On November 2nd Scottish Developers held an event with Ed Gibson (ex-FBI agent and now Microsoft's Chief Security Advisor). That was advertised in my signature for about 2 months. I point out security problems in the programming forums, but I challenge you to find one post where I said "You have a security problem - why not attend this event it will help you get a better understanding" unless the other person EXPLICITLY brought up the subject. (And even then it's only happened about two or three times in as many years)
The Grand Negus wrote: Wouldn't you be tempted to point out the connection when someone complained of complexity or inefficiency?
No. Not really - but then for the last event I organised we had to turn people away because the Health and Safety lot would have thrown a fit.
The Grand Negus wrote: And - even if you weren't - wouldn't the signature itself stand as a silent (and to many, an irritating) protest?
Well, if my response was "See sig" and left it at that then yes. But if I answered the question without commenting on the event then I don't think anyone's had a problem with that.
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hi Colin please take this to soapbox or lounge and i don't think this Troll[^] have the right to just spoil the environment
thanks
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Amar Chaudhary wrote: Colin please take this to soapbox or lounge
I don't have the authority to move entire threads.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I don't have the authority to move entire threads.
I don't think it is really true Soapbox material anyways
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Amar Chaudhary wrote: lounge
Don't want to spoil the lounge  It has been pretty clean lately.
Amar Chaudhary wrote: i don't think this Troll[^] have the right to just spoil the environment
He is being a bit more civilized and hasn't rammed Plain English down anyone's throat, yet.
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PaulC1972 wrote: hasn't rammed Plain English down anyone's throat
Maybe he's figured out that provoking the gag reflex doesn't endear him to anyone.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: Maybe he's figured out that provoking the gag reflex doesn't endear him to anyone.
Well, did you see the new thread he started in this forum? Holy-Moley
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The Grand Negus wrote: If you're truly interested in improving the environment here, lend some support to my suggestion regarding IntelliTXT:
What is so wrong about IntelliTxt?
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PaulC1972 wrote: hat is so wrong about IntelliTxt?
See the referenced suggestion. But I'll repeat here:
(1) It unnecessarily complicates the database.
(2) It unnecessarily compilcates the already cluttered sign-up screen.
(3) It defaces the articles here without adding value.
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The Grand Negus wrote: (1) It unnecessarily complicates the database.
(2) It unnecessarily compilcates the already cluttered sign-up screen.
(3) It defaces the articles here without adding value.
Okay....
(1) How does it complicate an already "cluttered" database? You mean Chris Maunder has let you take a peek inside the CP database? I think not
(2) Sign-on/up screen doesn't seem cluttered, are you using a high enough resolution on your screen? I'm at 1280x1024 and all is good
(3) Like Colin said in the other thread, something has to generate revenue for this site to keep it going.
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PaulC1972 wrote: (1) How does it complicate an already "cluttered" database?
By adding to it.
PaulC1972 wrote: (2) Sign-on/up screen doesn't seem cluttered, are you using a high enough resolution on your screen?
But it is - when signing up, I was asked if I wanted to turn IntelliTXT on or off and needed to make a decision. At the time, I didn't even know what it was, so I was confused. Clutter, confusion, take your pick.
PaulC1972 wrote: something has to generate revenue for this site to keep it going.
Fine. How about something legitimate, that doesn't degrade and deface something else? Why does that something have to spoil something that was fine before?
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The Grand Negus wrote: that doesn't degrade and deface something else
I mentioned in another post that I have the IntelliTxt turned off and you do this by going to Update your Setting next to your member number. There is a checkbox down a little ways that you can uncheck and you know what? No IntelliTxt in the articles when you read them ( at least for me :-> )
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PaulC1972 wrote: I mentioned in another post that I have the IntelliTxt turned off and you do this by going to Update your Setting next to your member number. There is a checkbox down a little ways that you can uncheck and you know what? No IntelliTxt in the articles when you read them ( at least for me )
Right. But should you have to do this? And if everyone does this - and there's no logical reason why they wouldn't once they get around to it - then the whole program collapses anyway. It's a bad idea.
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The Grand Negus wrote: But should you have to do this?
You are given the choice, unlike certain places around the world :->
I'd like to help but I don't feel like Googling it for you.
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Nobody's ever complained to me, but it's freeware, and points to a couple programming articles too. I just want people to check out my stuff and let me know if they like it. So far, I've gotten no interest... or maybe the thing is so good that nobody has any comment I think that's in-scope, but I don't think advertising a commercial product is very good. People do it, but they probably shouldn't. When I see it, I think a little less of the person, but I wouldn't bother to bitch them out for it. I have much more important things to bitch people out for.
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