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This is an issue which no one seems to want to address. I've got a couple of fans who constanly offer univotes. I've asked for histograms to try and see the statistics, but they are not available. That leads me to believe providing a list of IPs (to investigate further) is out of the question.
It seems the site will only take action when a threshold is met in the forums, after enough readers complain. The authors of the articles to left to hang out and dry.
I'm at the point I ask if there is any interest, because I am tired of my rating getting beat up on less than main stream articles by the univoters. See ASN.1 Parsing (at Article Requests)[^]
Jeff
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Jeffrey Walton wrote: I've asked for histograms to try and see the statistics, but they are not available.
I think in the .NET rewrite, we'll have a more detailed vote view (how many 5s, 4s, 3s etc.). That would be a better reflection of how people have rated an article.
Also, eventually anything above 4 should be considered a decent vote. Some people will not like your article anyway, so you'll always get a few 1s. I know most authors will find it hard to accept that someone would dislike their article. But that's how it is.
I am always a little amused every time I see an angry author complaining of getting 1-votes. I did that several years ago, and I have seen dozens of other authors do the same. Eventually most regular CP authors settle down to ignoring the low votes they get.
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I'm so mad
They didn't even leave a comment... wait, they left a comment but it was useless. Arrgg. I'll have to go puch something now, to get rid of all this pent up rage!
My current favourite word is: PIE!
I have changed my name to my regular internet alias. But don't let the 'Genius' part fool you, you don't know what 'SK' stands for.
-The Undefeated
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Hi Nish,
Nishant Sivakumar wrote: I know most authors will find it hard to accept that someone would dislike their article. But that's how it is.
I agree. I would find it more palatable if the submission lacked quality. I've been keeping statistics with respect to what I recieve. What I've found is damn near as soon as one of mine hit, one or two univotes come in. Watching other articles submitted at nearly the same time (next to the article in question on the 10 most recent list), show others are not receiving them. This tells me it is arbirary and capricious.
Jeff
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Jeffrey Walton wrote: This tells me it is arbirary and capricious
I should qualify this by stating the univoters are arbirary and capricious, not CP. I believe it was Marc who coined the term for this type of voter as 'fans'.
Jeff
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Jeffrey Walton wrote: the site will only take action when a threshold is met in the forums
Jeffrey,
"The site" is me, insofar as decisions on what our team works on, and our number 1 priority is getting the new base infrastructure out the door so that we can continue to handle the growing load and not completely fall over.
Histograms will be available, we will also look to install voter tracking to weed out univoters, but they aren't going to happen today, and I am a little offended that you feel we leave authors to hang out and dry.
Please let me assure you that myself and my team are working literally around the clock and our weekends to enable us to introduce the features our readers and contributors have asked for and we are not sitting here ignoring you.
We're still a small team, though, and the infrastructure is massive, so getting the features that were requested by you and the thousand-or-so members will take time. For each feature we add we are going to have dozens of members complain that we should be concentrating on feature X instead of Y
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I am a little offended that you feel we leave authors to hang out and dry.
My apologies. My personality can be abrasive at times, with no mal-intentions.
I suppose it depends on how you look at it, but I only become passionate about things I care about. So if I did not care, my abrasiveness would not show (I know it is kind of perverted).
Jeff
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This idea pops up as regularly as clockwork. Unfortunately, while this is a good idea in principle, it would be abused by the Univoters entering gibberish (the official language of Gibberania).
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote: This idea pops up as regularly as clockwork. Unfortunately, while this is a good idea in principle, it would be abused by the Univoters entering gibberish (the official language of Gibberania).
Perhaps weighting the vote via the "Rate this Message" could balance that.
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I voted your post 1.
My comment: adfafafdasfdafafads
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Michael Dunn wrote: I voted your post 1.
My comment: adfafafdasfdafafads
And that's a perfect example. Instead of wondering why it got voted so low, we now know 2 things.
1) The vote really doesn't reflect any actual opinion of the content of the post.
2) The person who made the vote is a gibbering fool.
Now I won't lose any sleep on figuring out where I erred in the article/post. Had the person actually put something of a meaningful comment with the vote, it could be corrected.
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Codeproject does not have a dedicated WPF forum as of today.
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So, whenever i use some <pre></pre> tags, apart from removing any empty lines within it, everytime the message is edited/posted, a couple more empty lines are added to the bottom of my message. Whats up with that? Infact, it might not be becuase of the pre tags, but just that i notice it when i use them, but still, stop woth the extra lines
Code?
End of message
Bottom of message (written in sig) EDITED 5 times in total, see all that space? ^
My current favourite word is: PIE!
Good ol' pie, it's been a while.
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And those damn smilely faces....
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Smiley faces don't automatically get inserted though.
My current favourite word is: PIE!
Good ol' pie, it's been a while.
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Added to the bug list
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Ah, so much yellow... so many pictures.
My current favourite word is: PIE!
Good ol' pie, it's been a while.
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The Undefeated wrote: so much yellow... so many pictures.
Grrr... They removed it before we could relish upon it.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Maybe its for the best.
My current favourite word is: PIE!
I have changed my name to my regular internet alias. But don't let the 'Genius' part fool you, you don't know what 'SK' stands for.
-The Undefeated
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Yikes.
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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I find only two yellow lines now:
Page not Found<br />
The page you requested cannot be found.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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I think the dire need of the hour is to combat the following menace which growing like anything currently.
1) Cross Posts
2) Multiple Posts
A few of the old CPians take the pain of replying it with a message "Cross Post (Ignore)" for the benefit of other CPians to other save other CPians falling prey to these tricksters. I just thought if there could be some option where geographically distributed moderators can make a 'Lock Post'/'Disable Post'. Once the post is locked/disabled, it can only gather votes to die out or save itself in case of wrong categorization.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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I second that.
Once flagged as a cross/multiple post, it should be impossible to reply any more,
or to modify the post. Voting and delete-by-owner should be the only remaining options.
There is no need to reward the cross/multiposter with a link to his original post...
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles]
this months tips:
- before you ask a question here, search CodeProject, then Google
- the quality and detail of your question reflects on the effectiveness of the help you are likely to get
- use PRE tags to preserve formatting when showing multi-line code snippets
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