|
I thought we were only allowed one vote per message? I just voted twice for the same message, with no way to "undo" a vote. (I thought I saw that feature during the beta.)
Scott.
—In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
—Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
[ Forum Guidelines] [ Articles] [ Blog]
|
|
|
|
|
Hi Scott,
I think this actually is a new feature; I just voted your message three times, first 5,
then 1, now 3. It currently shows 3 with 1 vote.
There has been a request to be able to modify one's own vote (in case an article does not
sound as good on a second read as it did originally), and maybe Chris & Co found a way
to implement exactly that.
|
|
|
|
|
I am pretty sure that this was more explicit than that in the beta version, but I could be mistaken. As long as it doesn't change the vote count it shouldn't cause problems.
Scott.
—In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
—Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
[ Forum Guidelines] [ Articles] [ Blog]
|
|
|
|
|
You can revote transparently.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
|
|
|
|
|
If that's been done, then it's way too cool. Let me check it verify it by voting your message spam and then voting 5 again.  Just kidding.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
|
|
|
|
|
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: voting your message spam
Spam is an additional filter/flag right? You can vote 1 and also additionally report it as Spam/Abuse, as the message confirmation that popups up indicate.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
|
|
|
|
|
Nah, I was just joking.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
...formerly known as brahmma
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
|
|
|
|
|
I see the site has undergone some redesign.
Would be nice to be able to view all bookmarks or view all in selected category. I don't want to click next, next, next... to find the bookmark that I want.
"A good scientist is a person with original ideas. A good engineer is a person who makes a design that works with as few original ideas as possible." - Freeman Dyson
|
|
|
|
|
There can be too moany bookmarks to be viewed all on one page.
But we will probbaly add some search options there, as well as order by date added. Will that work?
Sincerely,
Elina
Life is great!!!
Enjoy every moment of it! 
|
|
|
|
|
Elina Blank wrote: There can be too moany bookmarks to be viewed all on one page.
But we will probbaly add some search options there, as well as order by date added. Will that work?
Yes. Search option would be appreciated.
But another suggestion would be that when you click a bookmarked category topic, show all bookmarks in that category. Or show all bookmarked categories on the initial bookmarks page. As it currently is, only categories for bookmarks shown on the current bookmark page is shown at the top. But then again, I suppose some people have tons of bookmarks in certain categories.
Well, in that case, it might be nice to view bookmarks filtered/sorted by category (though not all shown on 1 page)
"A good scientist is a person with original ideas. A good engineer is a person who makes a design that works with as few original ideas as possible." - Freeman Dyson
|
|
|
|
|
Bookmarks are already sorted by categories.
And I do like the idea of having all categories shown on the initial bookmark page.
Will be added to the list of requested features
Sincerely,
Elina
Life is great!!!
Enjoy every moment of it!
|
|
|
|
|
I suppose that article voting is a really great feature but it can be misused/abused in some cases.
For example, while some Competition goes, it can be used to dislodge an article from "Best Picks" section at Home page. If someone votes "1", the total rating significantly reduces and presumably good article is removed from the main showcase (even if all previous 20 readers gave "4"s and "5"s!) Consecuently, far far less people will read and vote for the article afterwards.
But do not get me wrong! I am not arainst any votes! However, in some cases it can be DELIBERATELY used for UNRELATED purposes.
I suggest that a person who makes "downgrade" vote ("1" or "2") must be asked for leaving his comment/reason of the mark.
P.S.
Showing number of votes for every mark point (like in some MSDN articles) would be also great.
|
|
|
|
|
Sergei Arhipenko wrote: If someone votes "1", the total rating significantly reduces and presumably good article is removed from the main showcase (even if all previous 20 readers gave "4"s and "5"s!)
The above effect is somehow reduced by vote weighting.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
[my articles]
|
|
|
|
|
What does mean "weight"?
MVPs votes have higher weight that regular vote, haven't they?
If yes, it is good...
|
|
|
|
|
Sure it is.
You've got my 5. 
|
|
|
|
|
At the bottom of this page http://www.codeproject.com/script/articles/TopArticles.aspx[^]
is stated:
Rating is the sum of all votes divided by the number of votes. Voting can only be done by registered members and a persons vote is weighted by their level.
If I remember well, Colin Angus Mackay told me that membership level vote is weighted in a (2 based) exponential way, i.e. 1 for bronze level members, 2 for silver ones, 4 for gold ones and so one (the exact weight numers maybe are different, but that should be the approach).
Sergei Arhipenko wrote: MVPs votes have higher weight that regular vote, haven't they?
AFAIK MVP is now only an award, hence it has nothing to do with the weights, it is just the membership level that matters.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
[my articles]
|
|
|
|
|
CPallini wrote: AFAIK MVP is now only an award, hence it has nothing to do with the weights, it is just the membership level that matters.
MVP awarding here has been there for a long time. What's new is the MVPs get a cool new icons now. AFAIK, MVP votes have a more significant impact than others, both on the forums and on articles.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
|
|
|
|
|
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: AFAIK, MVP votes have a more significant impact than others, both on the forums and on articles.
Maybe a definitive sentence about article/messages ratings calculation (by Chris?) will be useful.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
[my articles]
|
|
|
|
|
There was some writeup here at CP about MVPs, who they are, how they are elected every year and how their votes are assessed, etc. I can't find it now.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
|
|
|
|
|
Sergei Arhipenko wrote: What does mean "weight"?
Bronze members are weighted as 1, Silver members have a weight of 2, Gold has weight of 4, and Platinum has weight of 8.
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
|
|
|
|
|
I agree, weights are good but they do not solve the problem in full measure.
Weights do not reduce number of abusages and do not expose them.
|
|
|
|
|
there is no final solution to this.
as usual the best approach is democracy: everyone can vote, when several people see a score
they don't agree with, they can influence that by adding their vote. A dynamic equilibrium
will be reached.
|
|
|
|
|
Sergei Arhipenko wrote: weights are good but they do not solve the problem in full measure.
I agree.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
[my articles]
|
|
|
|
|
Sergei Arhipenko wrote: Weights do not reduce number of abusages and do not expose them.
Not really true. If a whole bunch of Gold members vote 4 or 5 on an article, it is going to take alot of Bronze members to vote 1 or 2 to bring down the article's score. Also, popularity is another thing to look at.
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
|
|
|
|
|
"If a whole bunch of Gold members..."
The "If" is a critical point.
I am talking about situation when your article appeared recently and does not have votes enough to sustain "downgrade" vote. Its enough to monitor home page once per day to make sure that you could kick out any fresh article you want. Once kicked out the article will not gather much popularity.
I just suggest some points to improve site in unobtrusive way. Unfortunately none of responsibles answered.
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
