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OK - I'd be a loser here, and I'm definitely bigger than you Chris. I'd have a grand total of 38 points.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I'd be a loser here
start yelling, I'll join you. Chris asked for it after all.
The basic idea seems sound, but clearly the 31 and 61 thresholds John proposed are too high, there should be more of an exponential curve there.
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Arctic Jim on 38 points? Doesn't sound right to me.
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martin_hughes wrote: Arctic Jim on 38 points? Doesn't sound right to me.
I spend a lot of time out on the lash.
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Yeah, I kinda figured some folks would get caught in that net, and it's a perfect of example illustrating how hard it would be to make gold (and subsequently, platinum) status. Gold requires 15 articles right now (30 points in my proposed system).
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There are currently only around 950 Gold members.
Do we really want to reduce this number even further? Personally I'd like to make it slightly easier
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Only 950 gold members, and about 30 platinum members certainly is an exclusive club on a site with almost 6 million users. Just ignore me then.
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I'm afraid you are mistaken, there most likely is a big difference between accounts, people and active users.
There are 950 golden accounts, probably all belonging to different people;
there are almost 6 million accounts in total, the number of people involved is unknown.
It would be my guess the number of active users (lets say people having an account and logging in at CP at least once a year) could be well below one million.
I do recall we recently had an account with just the single message asking how to delete his account; the recent flock of "doubting" people just today have proven to have more accounts than people; and I don't hear or see several people anymore that were very active some 12 months ago.
So things being very dynamic, and accounts being somewhat hard to get rid of, I would stay far away from mentioning 6 million users. After all, every page mentions there are some 20,000 people on-line at this very moment. Did you ever notice a much higher number? and do you think most people log in and out all the time?
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It would be interesting to see how many actually active accounts there are, but I don't think Chris would give that number up for fear of loosing advertisers.
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Why not just have MVP and bugger all else in terms of rating?
It would seem more democratic to me. The Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum statuses don't really make much sense - especially for lounge lizards like me - and could be replaced by the Messages posted description (expand it though - I'm much more than a "personality"!).
Hold elections on MVP status, and hold them more regularly. Members could nominate people who have been useful and/or re-elect those they consider still worthy. This would both involve the entire community in the process, and keep MVP's (like Moobs) on their toes (and maybe, just maybe, stamp out the Lord of the Flies mentality that rewards unpleasantness on this site, on occasion.)
Just a thought. Just a thought.
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Nice one, Moobs.
How about -10 points for each and every post on bowel movements and -100 points for racist commentary?
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Why is it messages get accounted for only through a possible MVP status (of which only 40 are awarded, so message quality isn't absolute, it is a competition of kinds), whereas articles count directly and absolutely?
Since in the end you get what you award, some people will start calculating "How many (possibly crap) articles do I need to keep my silver/golden nugget?"
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MVP indicates a person that is actively helping the community. This help is effected via answering questions in the forums and through posting articles. I believe (but I'm not sure) that it's not merely message count but might also include some sort of "worth" calculation based on votes you receive on the messages you post (in the programming forums).
Luc Pattyn wrote: How many (possibly crap) articles
Hopefully, the "crap" is caught by the pre-screeners. Besides, that's one of the reasons I suggested such high points values for progressing from one level to the next.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Hopefully, the "crap" is caught by the pre-screeners. Besides, that's one of the reasons I suggested such high points values for progressing from one level to the next.
Wouldn't your system make it 'easier' for these "crap" articles to make it into the general article pool?
As I understand it now the articles are screened in large bye the gold members. But with your system there will be less gold members to do this, therefor increasing the chances for these articles to go unchecked.
I know the code project staff screens them as well, but still.
I do agree with the general idea however.
In my case I'd be bumped down to bronze again, I think, but I don't really care about the status, I give help (where I can), and receive help when needed. That's a reward on its own.
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Actually, they would probably sit in the pending approval queue longer because there would be fewer gold members to go through them, and the remaining gold members (after the level adjustment) would probably be much more selective about what gets through.
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Messages are accounted for (in absolute terms) in Gold/Silver etc status too.
Luc Pattyn wrote: Since in the end you get what you award, some people will start calculating "How many (possibly crap) articles do I need to keep my silver/golden nugget?"
As they have been doing for years and will continue to do.
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Chris Maunder wrote: Messages are accounted for (in absolute terms) in Gold/Silver etc status too.
Yes, and I accept that; however it's the one point John did not justify in his proposal. So I asked.
Chris Maunder wrote: As they have been doing for years and will continue to do.
Of course. All I'm saying is be careful when considering such changes. And please don't change fundamental things often, consider them well then keep the rules constant for several years.
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I whant to remove my account.
Cant find the anyting about howto.
Please someone help me.
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You can't remove your account. You can simply choose not to use it. If you removed your account, it would break the referential integrity.
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Actually, Chris just has to give us a way to mark it as disabled (which would not be something we could un-do). This would essentially delete the email address so no further emails would be sent from CP. To be honest, they really need to add this functionality.
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Oh I agree. We generally use status fields to mark records as active or closed, but until he adds it in, the OP is stuck with the relevant solution. Really though, is it that hard not to use the account again?
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Yeah, I know. My faded memory is that we had it and I kept getting tons of 'I can't get access to my account' emails, followed by 'yes, I checked the 'remove account' box. Why?' discussions.
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Well, to avoid the problem, the site could send an email to the user's email address and make them click back to a verification page to make sure they KNOW their account is being removed. This verification page could provide an explanation about the consequences of deleting/disabling the account, and make them click a button to finalize it.
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Account removed.
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Chris Maunder
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Have seen the forum bookmarks before (I think) and they never worked for me. However, they seem to be working now, thanks. Any chance you can add it for all forums, including the personal ones that some people have and all the hidden ones? Thanks!
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