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I will always would wanna have voting on my articles. Good or bad.
But the Thing is that current voting system is not democratic to articles that will never have large amount of views/votes due to target audience being small.
Since one guy with few fake accounts easily sinks article that had good rating for over 2 years.
For things like "white-space formatting".
Other than that I don't care about overall voting and I post articles if I feel that it may help people. If the article is over 4 than I feel it's probably useful to people and if not then I will remove it myself
Anyway I just tried to propose solution to make system better.
"There is always a better way"
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Ladislav Nevery wrote: not democratic
Sure it is.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: one guy with few fake accounts easily sinks
Or elevates -- why don't you make more memberships and up-vote your articles? Make thirteen (if I recall correctly) and vote the offending votes into oblivion.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: make system better
It can't be done.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: What might be better is if the author could choose whether or not to allow voting on the article
Maybe what we need is to give an author a choice for the minimum rep required for voting, say:
- voter needs to be at least gold author (intended for extensive or advanced articles)
- voter needs to be at least silver author (intermediate)
- voter needs to be at least bronze author (beginner's article)
- everyone can vote
where probably the minimum could not be set higher than the author's own color.
and maybe we want author or authority, not just author for the voter's color.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: minimum could not be set higher than the author's own color
I would almost say that only members of the author's level and above can vote on the article.
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isn't that what I said? it sure is what I meant to say.
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At first I thought not, but after I posted it, I figured it was.
I wouldn't disagree with you.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I wouldn't disagree with you.
Aha, now I have something to put on my wall.
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I'd never get any votes then...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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that is exactly why I always use the term "color" or "color level"
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Not many maybe, but they'd be 5s.
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I guess that most of the positive votes vould normaly be from people from lover levels (students etc) since those vere seeking help in first place. and negative ones from higher levels since those can usually can make even better article.
Most of the higher levels usually ranted about formatting etc but their rant was lost in positive feedback of peopple to whose it really helped. They usually reformat it their way anyway.
That's the reason I think system was kinda balanced when everyone could vote.
The only think I would do for start is
Disabling voting scores lower than 4 from accounts that don't have articles with at least score 4 on them. Also maybe regognizing one user using multiple accounts for voting (via cookie / ip ?).
Now the tactical voting can be solved be solved by calculating score from votes older than 24h ? This way articles vould have 24h time to find audience.
"There is always a better way"
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Ladislav Nevery wrote: higher levels since those can usually can make even better article.
It is hoped that gold+ members can distinguish sub-optimal but non-dangerous code from dangerous code.
If the code presented is dangerous, then sure, vote 1. But if it's OK, but I can do better, then a 1 may not be in order.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: higher levels usually ranted about formatting
I've had it from both ends, I'm pretty sure mostly from the bottom end of the spectrum.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: They usually reformat it their way anyway
Exactly.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: regognizing one user using multiple accounts
I doubt that's possible.
All in all, I don't really care about the rating.
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Somehow that is not very democratic.
Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...
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I think there is a need, given recent discussions, and a couple of requests, for a group to be set up.
Invitations freely given.
Name : "My Big Fat Geek Kitchen"
Subject : Curry, Chilli and other Spicy Food Recipes.
Rules : Open to all, but format to be observed...
(Overview, Ingredients, Equipment, Method, Observations).
Header Rule : Opening Thread of any Recipe must begin with Vegetarian, Chicken, Beef etc then whether it is a curry or whatever else, (just to make scanning easier).
There are a lot of amateur chefs here, and we all have our fave dishes, it would be nice to have a place to share them.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Dalek Dave wrote: There are a lot of amateur chefs here
do you want a Kitchen? we already have a spaghetti forum!
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Dalek Dave wrote: There are a lot of amateur chefs here, and we all have our fave dishes, it would be nice to have a place to share them.
I think this is what you are looking for: Mumsnet[^]
me, me, me
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!"
Larry Niven
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GFY!
We have had several Curry Threads recently, and there was a chilli thread not so long ago, and I have just been asked about setting up a group, so I thought, "Why not?".
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Dalek Dave wrote: We have had several Curry Threads recently, and there was a chilli thread not so long ago, and I have just been asked about setting up a group, so I thought, "Why not?".
Was only kidding: good idea. Love anything that stings both ends though preferably not at the same time...
me, me, me
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!"
Larry Niven
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digital man wrote: stings both ends
DaveIf this helped, please vote & accept answer!
Binging is like googling, it just feels dirtier. (Pete O'Hanlon)
BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
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Spiffy.
Dalek Dave: There are many words that some find offensive, Homosexuality, Alcoholism, Religion, Visual Basic, Manchester United, Butter.
Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.
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The page is out of date now, if you click through it takes you to a new page with the Latest CodeProject promotion code.
The local page hosted on CP needs a refresh to match the clickthrough page;
http://www.discountasp.net/codeproject/[^]
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Well spotted.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I was just looking at the Who's Who @ CP and noticed David Cunningham's Author Rep points to be -60. David-Cunningham[^]
The Rep FAQ shows negative points for Articles/Tips/Tech blogs being downvoted, however David does not have any Articles/Tips/Tech Blogs listed under his profile, so I cannot see how someone can downvote nothing.
The only reason I ask is that it stood out on the page for some reason and went digging.
How can this negative have come about?
Dave
Don't forget to rate messages!Find Me On: Web| Facebook| Twitter| LinkedInWaving? dave.m.auld[at]googlewave.com
modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 7:41 AM
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I reported this[^] a couple of weeks ago, Thiru added it to the bug list
DaveIf this helped, please vote & accept answer!
Binging is like googling, it just feels dirtier. (Pete O'Hanlon)
BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
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