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Gratz on getting the multiple nukes feature (well I think you got that as a protector now).
I somehow already feel safer now
And you get a cool new icon
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I disagree.
The lounge is a fairly busy place, reporting it there would send the report on to the second or 3th page very quickly.
Also if the Jedi master (aka Pete) reports it I believe most would just click the link and report away, not to suggest that Pete would use that knowledge for bad but in this particular case I disagree with him (probably because Chris already deleted the offending messages).
We all have a mind of our own, I just wish people would use there's more often (especially on the internet).
When Pete (or anybody else) reports a member here I always check out the profile of the member, his/her messages and decide for myself if I send in the nuke.
The reporting it here however ensures that the spammer is removed more quickly. Like Pete said a lot of people simply don't care about the spam messages or don't know about that report link (I think it should be made into a big red button with a nuke icon or something on it ).
Anyway usually these report threads here are only 1 or 2 messages long so I don't think they cause much noise.
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I have been reading lounge posts in Thread view for a couple of years now.
In April I started getting the "Unable to load messages due to high load" message in the lounge constantly.
See post here[^].
Yesterday Frank Kerrigan[^] pointed out here[^] that using 'Normal View' instead of 'Thread View' allows lounge posts to be seen.
I would like to report that I also see this behaviour when attempting to access The Lounge.
Pete
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It's a load issue, unfortunately. We've changed hardware and we're still trying to nut out why theoretically faster hardware != better performance.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Fair enough. I couldn't find a similar report for this in this forum, nor mention in the current bugs list. Just thought I'd formally point it out.
thanks for looking into it.
Pete
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Chris Maunder wrote: It's a load issue, unfortunately. We've changed hardware and we're still trying
to nut out why theoretically faster hardware != better performance.
Started to see this high load notice while attempting to view The Lounge and C++ Forums, roughly since mid August. Normal view worked on The Lounge but on C++ I got timed out.
-- RP
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Thread view is working fine for me now. However, in the past it did not work for approx. 4 days and then it was fine after the hampsters did their thing.
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I hate to do myself down but the ratings in this question[^] seem incorrect. Listing the solutions in the order "Top Rated", puts mine ahead of Marcus and SA, and yet I got 2x5 votes and they each got 3x5.
The best things in life are not things.
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You're sorted now.
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But it still doesn't explain why I was top before; I'm not asking for extra points, rather that the others get due recognition. But thanks anyway.
The best things in life are not things.
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Still isn't right
SA has 4x5 votes now and is 3th in line.
First I thought it was because of total rep points or so but SA still beats you there.
So I'd think something is wrong with the sorting.
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It looks like it has something to do with the final value. Regardless of how many votes we each received, our totals are all 5.00/5.
The best things in life are not things.
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You're just special on this one, I guess...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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I wish.
The best things in life are not things.
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More than a dozen members, many of whom have names like "Member 8027406", joined the site in the last 3 days and are giving my article a 1/5. They're evidently modeling themselves after "Member 3821620" who joined 4 years ago. So um, can anything be done about that? Or is it impossible to rule out that these are just a bunch of separate individuals that joined the site for the sole purpose of voting down my article?
Head-to-head benchmark: C++ vs .NET[^]
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This is an impressive article. You have obviously put a lot of effort into it, and you present your results in a very clear, easy-to-read manner. My suggestion for improving it: take the negative comments, embrace them, and update your article, either by fixing the code or by explaining the point in question. I have countered the 1-votes on a few of the posts, and the rating went from 1 to 4.5+, meaning that the voter was a newbie who has yet to contribute anything to the site. Or as Christian put it, moron.
That was the "good news" part of my response. Now for the bad news: The voting system here on CodeProject is hopelessly broken. You will get no satisfaction from that statement, and other responses here will probably be along the lines of "over time, the 1-votes won't matter". This is clearly bullcrap, but don't expect anything else. It is what it is, get used to it.
Keep up the good work. Don't let the morons get you down.
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Damn Hans! That was spot on.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: This is clearly bullcrap
Word up. Yeah - your rep points don't take much of a hit, but a single hostile 1-vote - REGARDLESS of the weight it carries - can take many many 5 votes to bring the rating back to an acceptable level. "Over time", yeah - it might, but once an article falls off the list of randomly selected new or "highest rated" lists, your vote count RARELY changes, thus prolonging the crap rating you acquired when one retard voted you a 1.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Yep, happens to me a lot too... but I think suggestions for improving the voting system haven't been taken seriously. What can you do but move on. Keep contributing though, those of us that aren't a**holes appreciate the good articles and other contributions. I started out just browsing the site for a long time before I decided to start contributing.
Edit: Looks like a great article, I'll read it soon and vote accordingly. This topic is of great interest to me so I'm definitely excited to read!
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This looks like a gang of schoolchildren, or one person with multiple sock puppet accounts. With luck Chris and the team can find out and fix it.
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The names take the format "Member nnnnnnn" as these are the CP auto-generated values until the user gives themselves a name. They may or may not be related to "Member 3821620".
As for the "stuffing" you are pretty much correct, these are likely to be sockpuppet accounts for a user that doesn't like your conclusions. I hope Chris can sort this out for you, downvoting has a much bigger effect on articles than elsewhere, the drop out of view as the rating goes down.
I'd like to second the commentthat the voting system isn't perfect, by allowing everyone to vote on articles we get some skewed results in both directions. I've seen pretty poorly written articles heavily bolstered by votes from friends of the author as well as what appears to be tactical downvoting (as opposed to malicious downvoting as in your case).
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Keith Barrow wrote: wing everyone to vote on articles we get some skewed results in both directions
Exactly.
I can turn off downvoting and that solves the problem of members getting a rating of 4.85 / 5 instead of 5/5. It doesn't solve the problem, in the least, of sock-puppets upvoting crap articles with no way for members to balance this out.
In this particular case there are maybe 2-3 votes that look suspicious from the quick look I had. I will look deeper, though, and see if I can get creative.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Would it be possible to prevent those who have been members for less than (for example) 6 months, and reputations below (insert sensible number here) from voting at all? In this case (and maybe others) it's quite possible that people are put off reading the article because of all the 1 votes.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: t's quite possible that people are put off reading the article because of all the 1 votes.
At the top of the article is a big "4 stars" and a 4.12 (110 votes). To me that says "Good article" and I can't imagine anyone being put off reading it because of that. If you hover to get the histogram then yes, you see the one's, but I would imagine the average person would treat these as noise or spurious.
I'm against [Edit] not [/Edit] letting new members vote - that robs the community of fresh voices. However, we do have in place a requirement that your email is a confirmed email address, thus making it harder to setup casual sock puppets.
I'm working on something today that may help a little.
[Edit] OK, so I have the 'flu and need sleep
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
modified on Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:14 PM
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm against letting new members vote
I do not think that is what you meant.
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