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Hi Chris,
I don't understand how you can say it is a wrong idea because it is the main reason why StackOverflow works so well. Also statistics become relevant after times, more times = better stats. And Stats could be use to improve them self. I highly think that is the way to go to improve the quality and usability of this website. My article about WrapPanelFill is fine and could be really useful to many people, i'm sure. But a stupid a**hole voted 2 for it without any comment and he was the second to vote. Result is that the article is now evaluated to 3. I personally never take a look at article with evaluation of 3 because I think it is probably not valuable. There should be a way to prevent that to happen, or at least to minimize it to a minimum.
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SO works well because they have dedicated moderators who close poor questions with almost zero tolerance.
Eric Ouellet wrote: Also statistics become relevant after times, more times = better stats
Not if the input is biased, as it was. More time = more biased results = worse stats.
Believe me: we tried it. For a long time. It was a hard, hard decision to turn off comment-on-vote but it wasn't done on a whim.
Eric Ouellet wrote: But a stupid a**hole voted 2 for it without any comment and he was the second to vote. Result is that the article is now evaluated to 3. I
Ans so your article needs time. More time with unbiased results means a more accurate vote for your article (And it seems your articles are now over 4.8 average - so well done!)
Eric Ouellet wrote: There should be a way to prevent that to happen, or at least to minimize it to a minimum.
Take a look at the Code Project Rating and Reputation FAQ[^]
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Thanks for having taken the time to answer me. I appreciate.
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Hi talked to 3 persons about what happen to my tips.
They all agree with me on 4 points:
- Peoples voting 1,2 or 3 should leave comment (with a minimum of character length) in order to ensure to give feedback to the author in order to let him know the reason and give him the opportunity to improve its article.
- Due to anonymous nature of voting (now without comment) clearly make it easier to vote anything.
- A system that let vote down so easily let room for possibility to discredit good article in its early life and lead to improper perception of usefulness.
- Peoples that receive bad vote will stop writing. In general, it is fine. But a good potential writer fooled by wrong vote in its first articles could decide to stop writing and it could lead to many good articles being lost (if wrongly evaluated by some users).
Although there is probably good reasons to not force people to comment when voting, you absolutely not convinced me that it is reasonable to let people vote down without any comment. I definitively find that removing this restriction is a very hard to understand decision.
Thanks,
Eric
modified 21-May-15 17:08pm.
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The article was deleted; why I don't know. But the download is gone and there's no way to get it any more.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I don't know how Griffs muckup happened. But I'm always a bit scared to remove the wrong message when I'm.on a tablet. The precision on a tablet is a bit lacking and the confirmation is on a new page.
So could we please have the button moved from the subject bar so that you need to have the message open before removing it.
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It's a bit close on my tablet with the new layout, simply because in Portrait mode it sits over the message subject. I don't really have a problem in Landscape (but the previous version worked better on a tablet in "full site" / Landscape IMHO)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I missed my button when deleting spam in the lounge, and...um...I deleted your sticky post Chris...
Please restore it!
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I rest my case[^].
I ain't got no signature.
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No, I'm a Protector (or was until I did this anyway) and I think I got the wrong "delete message" button by mistake...
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How did you get access to my webcam?
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Extra credit if you've read the novel...
Software Zen: delete this;
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Several times. They also crop up in a number of his other novels: The Ringworld series for example. : thumbsup:
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You bastard! You killed Kenny Chris!
veni bibi saltavi
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Well to be fair all he did in that post was refer to his website
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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That's really funny, let's see who's first to kill Chris himself.
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You need to edit the removed message note it to say "This is what happens to you when you do not follow the rules!"
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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So we'll have anarchy until the rules are restored!?
That's awesome!
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HAHAHA! Oh man, that is too funny. I wonder why nobody thought of "gee, what happens if I mark Chris' post as spam?" before and tried it.
Anyways, that really had me chuckling this morning!
Marc
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Maybe someone just did.
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And here I was all ready to praise Maunder for realizing that the idiots that message was intended for would never actually read it; and then mock him for hitting the delete button instead of the unpin one.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I'm giving you a flat look.
All fixed.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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