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I don't agree. I think the maintance can be handled by the cp staff. Yeah, you may have a ton of people on your im list, but think of all the bored programmers that could be sitting in a chat room, on this site, at one time- It might be more then 8. Then again it might take away from the message boards....
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OH, and I just got this idea. Maybe we could have some live chats with industry big wigs. That would be really cool. It's like what they do with celebrities.
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a) Do you *really* want a chat room with 5553 ppl online? (that's the current number of ppl online on CP)
Either, almost all of them must be idle, or it will be a babylonian noise.
b) I'd rather have CP staff handle this site. It's quite a job, it's their core business, and I don't want them to slack on that for all other cool things they could do (this involves snowboarding, Chris!  )
c) Who's going to do the moderating? Voting and community sense keep most whackos out of here.
d) The people that could be most hepful would likely NOT be online. Many of the wizards here are happy to help, but being rushed by a newbie attack division's questions would likely give Kojack a bad hair day.
e) We had "Bob's hungout", a chatroom running on Sonork. It starved.
I suggest open a chat room, invite us, and see if we come.
we are here to help each other get through this thing, whatever it is Vonnegut jr.
sighist || Agile Programming | doxygen
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No, you only join the chat room if you want. Your not just automaticly thrown in once you sign into codeproject. Uh, that's all I can say.
You win, I don't want to fight.
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It's really hard to find help on install systems, like WISE for example. I think there should be a topic for this.
Does anyone know of a good place to get this kind of help?
Thanks.
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General discussions will do.
I'll write a suicide note on a hundred dollar bill - Dire Straits
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The NSIS forum on winamp.com is a pretty good resource
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I think this site really needs to be stress tested. It is probably the most inconsistently unstable web sites I konw of. Some links work, others don't. Kind of like "pot luck".
I know there are some great minds that could cure this ailment.
I'll I tried to do is access the following link at 3:00PM USA Eastern time
http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/
It wouldn't load after 10 "seperate" attempts. I tried everything I could on my end. I would expect more from a reputable website. 
Just some facts mixed with opinions. Too many people are scared to be honest, but I am not. It's nothing against CP, I'm just being a realist.
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This site is stress tested. 24 hrs a day. We've upgraded hardware, improved caching, reworked database tables, quadrupled our bandwidth - and every single time we open up one bottleneck we just ratchet up to the next.
We are constantly looking to make the site faster and more stable and are at the moment working on the next round up updates. All we can ask is your patience.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.
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Possibly we could discuss the site design here and see if we can't leverage some of the ASP expertise around.
Where is the largest bottleneck that you percieve? In my experience, connection pooling and untimely release of resources was always a problem with ASP/COM sites I've worked on. What is the typical DAL access for a page on this site? When the web farm bogs down, what do the db server resources look like? Are you at max connections? Is the proc utilization pegged? How about the pool of scripting engines in IIS?
With a few discussions, I suspect we can solve the performance issues here (which are considerable).
Thanks for a wonderful resource. I just want it slightly more available.
_Terry
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How about a section on the front page that lists Helpful articles found on other sites, like MSDN. Articles like Working with Multiple Forms in Visual Basic .NET: Upgrading to .NET[^], and Improving .NET Application Performance and Scalability[^] could be added to the list by selected CodeProject people (we don't want spammers adding stuff, do we?), like CP-Supporters and CP-Protectors. We could include a short description of the article and maybe a rating for it. This list could rotate through the links just like the Featured articles list or the Featured Products list.
We don't have to put it on the front page. Maybe each forum section could have it own list of articles.
This might help stem the tide of the most repeated questions we get from the "inexperienced" developers.
RageInTheMachine9532
"...a pungent, ghastly, stinky piece of cheese!" -- The Roaming Gnome
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We have to decide what we want CodeProject to be - a central repository or a directory. I vote for the former.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
a central repository or a directory. I vote for the former.
I agree with that - but why can't a central repository also have a list of web resources? I think this would be especially valuable in the context of CodeProject, if CPians could vote on the quality of the link - like is done right now with articles and comments.
I have seen many such lists on the web, but I have no way of judging (other than by personal experience) whether a linked site is any good. Getting CPians to vote for the good ones would be tremendously useful and timesaving.
You could set it up as a separate topic, with web sites nominated by email - the site url + brief description. Then people could vote on it.
Please consider this.
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I was about to suggest a monthly programming contest...then I realized there already was one. DOH! 
Still coaxing software out of the can after all these years...
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In forums 2.0
cheers,
Chris Maunder
Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.
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Managed VC++ will do for that.
I'll write a suicide note on a hundred dollar bill - Dire Straits
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Yes but, for those of us who'd like to code with C# & directX wouldn't that be strange to ask C# related questions in a C++ section?
Regards,
ElDrago.
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There is a C# section too.
I'll write a suicide note on a hundred dollar bill - Dire Straits
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It would be fun to see how we are distributed by interests - how many C++ programmers, VB hackers, Webmasters, Scriptkiddies, etc.
Some people think of it as a six-pack; I consider it more of a support group.
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Why not look at preferences for beer temperature ?
Regardz
Colin J Davies
* WARNING *
This could be addictive
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It's a real shame that people as stupid as you can work out how to use a computer. said by Christian Graus in the Soapbox
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