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The average cost of a house in the city I live in (Portland, OR) is now well in excess of $250,000. A gallon of milk costs $3-$5. At a $20,000 per year salary here one would almost literally be living in the street.
But Portland is actually inexpensive by US urban standards. I had the pleasure of living in New York City for a few months in 2000-2001. The rent on the apartment there was $7,000 per month. It wasn't a great apartment. It was small by most standards (1200 sqr. ft.), old and loud.
I can live in perpetual vacation in Mexico (staying in a hotel, eating in restaurants) for less than it costs to work in the US. By quiting my job, selling the house and cars and moving to a hotel in Puerto Vallarta I would actually accrue wealth faster.
If you're a US professional earning six-figures and hold any allusions of being worth it, you're blind. We aren't "worth it". We just happen to live in the place that benefited most grandly from the past 100 years of natural resource exploitation.
Proximity counted much more in the past than it does now (sic. outsourcing), so you better get used to the fact that 90% of this generation's kids are going to be "more equal" to the rest of the world than our generation.
Also get used to the idea that is is a very good thing. We're going to sacrifice a little for the world to gain a lot.
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compiler wrote: The average cost of a house in the city I live in (Portland, OR) is now well in excess of $250,000.
I hope that wasn't a complaint, because I think that's a heck of a deal.
In San Jose, California, the median house price is just above $700,000. The median condo price is around $450,000.
Hmmm... is it time to move to Oregon?
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Joshua Quick wrote: I hope that wasn't a complaint, because I think that's a heck of a deal.
In San Jose, California, the median house price is just above $700,000. The median condo price is around $450,000.
Hmmm... is it time to move to Oregon?
How about the Dallas / Fort Worth area of Texas? If you can live with a little more heat in the Summer and a little more cold in the winter, a slight chance of getting blown away by a tornado, no ocean or mountains even remotely close, and virtually no chance of an earthqauke the median hope price is about 140K, with no income tax, though property taxes are fairly high. I live in a very nice 4000 sq ft home on a 1/3 acre lot 4 miles from my downtown office on a hill, overlooking that skyline. It's not a gated community but has one of the lowest crime rates in the city (rarely more than an auto burglery per month or so) and is so quite it's almost scary. It was built in 1962. I bought it about 4 years ago for 160K (less than two years salary).
My dream location for life would be San Diego, but as I get older I have come to realize I love so much better here than I ever could there because what little additional salary I made there would be eaten up by housing costs, for a much smaller house. etc. and I could never afford to live anywhere there I would actually want to live anyhow!
--Robert
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I guess nobody expects a fresh CS graduate to earn the same amount as an experienced one.
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Yes, this is also a very relevant point.
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I have to agree, I live and work in Germany, in a small "provicial city" where I get (I purposly do not say earn, I feel I earn more!) a decent salary, but compared to a larger city (for example Muenich) I get peanuts, and would not be able to afford even a very basic flat, so even within the same country, this is not really a real comparison. Therefore I would suggest (like Anna-Jayne already has), not only the ability to enter the Country, but also the region where one lives, though I suppose this would spring the possibilities of the polling software for the board.
If this poll does show promise (regarding the feedback etc.), perhaps an extra formular that could be completed, sent in and looked at. Maybe this would be an interesting community project!
As an after thought C´T , a German IT magazine does one nearly every year, and throws up some interesting results.Just food for thought...
mfg
Phil
bum... and I thought I´d got rid of all the bugs
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I agree to this also. Salary earned will always have many influencing factors and the cost of living at the place where we live is the most deciding factor.
I cannot ask for a rise of my salary simply because an american counter part is getting an amount higher than that of me (after conversion into rupee). But, if the cost of living in my place is increasing and the quality of my work is improving (and I start to undertake more responsibility), I can ask for a rise.
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Hence the title : What is your annual salary in $US?
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Is because I'm still a student. Despite my urge to vote in the poll every week, I must pass this one. Wish there had been an option 'Not applicable'
Behind every great black man...
... is the police. - Conspiracy brother
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Well you could vote on the "less than $20,000 a year" and make everyone else feel better that their percentile ranking is going up
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:->
Behind every great black man...
... is the police. - Conspiracy brother
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That's why I had the "less than 20,000" option. My thinking on this one was for students wondering about how lucrative software development is. They're not so much interested in the difference between no income and less than 20K; but rather, the chances of eventually getting a 6-figure salary.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hello,
Chris Maunder wrote: That's why I had the "less than 20,000" option.
I figured that only people who are earning an annual salary should vote. Since I'm not earning anything at the moment, I cannot vote that I earn less than 20K. Anyway, one vote doesn't matter much anyway.
Chris Maunder wrote: They're not so much interested in the difference between no income and less than 20K; but rather, the chances of eventually getting a 6-figure salary.
It is indeed nice to see how the many people are where on the salary scale. It's worth noting that once chances to earn a 6 figure salary drops significantly when you earn almost a 6 figure salary. (from 11.2% to 5.74%) It's also nice to see that you chances increase significantly of earning more than 200K when you almost earn 200K. (from 0.68% to 1.5%) Factoring out the people who just try to mess up the polls by voting wrong numbers, will probably invalidate this number.
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... is the police. - Conspiracy brother
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:-OWHITE POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO F*** YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Agree -- I am retired.
I no longer "earn" an income.
WedgeSoft
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And my mom said I should be a doctor... Top 4% that's not bad considering, no degree, does anyone know what the 200 a year person does (what kind of programming?) anyone else work on VFD or PLC’s
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What’s you annual income if you don’t mind me asking? have you ever used any RS View, I just completed my second HMI project 1500 tags, it was interesting to say the least.
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geniusintraining, I just wanted to know if you work as employer or you have your own company or you work on your own? Sorry I don't know the exact english therms.
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Tony, your english is fine, I work for a company primarily research and development, I work hard but the money is good… South Carolina USA low 120’s is very good
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Well, I have master degree, about 10 years experience in sw development, but on the other hand I finished my studies just one year ago. I wish to have the opportunity at least to try to work abroad for some time. . Btw, I was working in USA for couple months about 2 years ago for the same salary as I have now ... but in kitchen ... washing the dishes
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YOU ARE A FREAK GO GUCK YOURSELF MUMMIES BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHITE POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!
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My god the trolls have really taken up residence in every nook and cranny. I am deeply saddened by this ignorant individual.
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So obviously by the name you are using and by lack of intelligence that you are displaying, you are 13 years old BOB and you have a IQ of 12, some day when you grow up you will realize that there is more to life, then just being a dumb ass and don’t mind this virus that I’m sending you, it won’t hurt for long…;P
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Over 200,000 a year : 1
That's 16K USD/month minimum - 2 months and you can buy a decent car with downpayment (even accounting for tax cuts).
Wow
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