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I still think a panel is better.
A panel of 10 can be selected.
Maybe separate panels for each section.
Nish
I am the Keyboard Smasher
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A panel would require going through every article posted and rating it. These ten people probably don't have that much time. If that's what you meant.
Why not throw away a dime?
I throw away ten pennies all the time.
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Voting makes sense only if it is anonimous. Otherwise it would be "I voted for you, you vote for me".
I vote pro drink ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
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Currently though its a "I say something you don't like in the lounge so you vote 20 1's"
Getting rid of the anonymous ratings should eliminate that.
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile.
And every day we'll turn another page.
Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book,
One brown mouse sitting in a cage."
"One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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James T. Johnson wrote:
Getting rid of the anonymous ratings should eliminate that.
 I didnt know anonymous voting is allowed.
This sucks!!!
Just about any idot can click on 1 and then on [vote]
No wonder!!!!!
Nish 
I am the Keyboard Smasher
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Anonymous voting hasn't been allowed for several months.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Anonymous voting hasn't been allowed for several months
Whew. It is a huge relief to hear that...
Nish
I am the Keyboard Smasher
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I see Chris replied already, but when I said anonymous I was meaning anonymous in that you don't know who voted what. 
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"I left there in the morning
with their God tucked underneath my arm
their half-assed smiles and the book of rules.
So I asked this God a question
and by way of firm reply,
He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays."
"Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971
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fair point. but do you have an idea that would discourage the problem of people giving low votes for no (apparent) reason?
-c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc.
You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse
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Maybe enable only silver members (and up) to vote, but still anonimously.
I vote pro drink
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How many silver members or above are on codeproject.
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kilowatt wrote:
How many silver members or above are on codeproject.
1000s I guess
Nish
I am the Keyboard Smasher
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how about this:
- Only members can rate
- Members wishing to rate an article must travel to Australia and submit their vote to Chris in person, at which point they will have fingerprints taken and recorded. Any rating less than 4 must be accompanied by a typed page reasons listing why the article deserves such a rating.
- Ratings will then be submitted to the author for approval, at which point they will officially be applied to the article
... or i suppose we could just live with it 
And if words were wisdom, I'd be talking even more. The Offspring, I Choose
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so you're fine with the fact that people can make the ratings numbers meaningless by voting multiple times for the same article and by voting for their own articles (multiple times)? and any attempt to add some validity to them is pointless because it's easier to "live with it" ?
-c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc.
Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Mark Twain
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Chris Losinger wrote:
so you're fine with the fact that people can make the ratings numbers meaningless by voting multiple times for the same article and by voting for their own articles (multiple times)?
Not really. But fraud is a problem in any voting system, and short of severly limiting who can vote (the panel suggestion), i doubt anything else will work. Let's face it: the people abusing the system now obviously do not care whether it has validity or not. I think it's obvious that most of them have too much time on their hands already, and so extra restrictions probably wouldn't make too much difference.
Meanwhile, the side-effects of some of these suggestions seem rather ugly: temporary user accounts created for the sole purpose of voting down an article, posts with meaningless comments included just for the sake of having comments, potentially extra overhead in maintaining the site...
I guess my point is, no amount of restrictions will make an a**hole less of an a**hole. It is to be hoped that someone engaging in unfriendly behavior will gain some maturity and stop, get bored and stop, get hit by a truck and stop... But life being what it is, we all suffer because of others.
And if words were wisdom, I'd be talking even more. The Offspring, I Choose
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You forgot to mention the $25 admin fee for voting
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
You forgot to mention the $25 admin fee for voting
If all my 1-voters have CP $25 per vote we might be able to buy 5 extra mirror servers
Nish
I am the Keyboard Smasher
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I usually only rate an article if I feel it is worth a 5. It is kinda like the old saying "If you don't have something nice to say then don't say it at all".
-Jack
To an optimist the glass is half full.
To a pessimist the glass is half empty.
To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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With the recent changes in the page layout, (ad on the left) the formatting of some of the articles is now to the point where the article text scrolls off the right side of the screen, even in 1024x768. For an example, see http://www.codeproject.com/wtl/rsprevfontcmb.asp. Please correct this if possible, because it really detracts from the usability of the site.
Thank you,
-Anatoly
Anatoly Ivasyuk is co-founder of DTLink Software, a company specializing in Internet software and technologies. He is the author of DTLink's Windows products: AnswerTool (email response management), AppUpdate (an ActiveX control that makes your software self-updating), and Personal Stock Monitor (investment management software)
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The bad formatting there is created when the code inside the <pre> tags is too long. Since the text block extends all the way over the rest of the page is formatted with the text extending over as well.
Not much to improve formmating except to ask the author to put some line breaks in his code so it doesn't do that.
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile.
And every day we'll turn another page.
Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book,
One brown mouse sitting in a cage."
"One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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James T. Johnson wrote:
Not much to improve formmating except to ask the author to put some line breaks in his code so it doesn't do that
The problem with that idea is what screen width do you format for? 1024 pixels is a nice size, any smaller and the code starts to look like sh!t.
I think a better idea would be for the <pre> tags to have a horizontal scroll bar. I have seen some articles with this, but I don't know how to do it.
---
CPUA 0x5041
Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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PJ Arends wrote:
I think a better idea would be for the <pre> tags to have a horizontal scroll bar. I have seen some articles with this, but I don't know how to do it.
I've seen them as well but don't remember where. If you could point one out I could disect the HTML (if you don't feel like it ). I think someone mentioned that the submission wizard preview puts scroll bars on, but the final version doesn't have it. 
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile.
And every day we'll turn another page.
Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book,
One brown mouse sitting in a cage."
"One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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Boy you screwed that post up didn't you
If I could find the article back that had the scrollbars, I would take a look at the HTML myself, but I can't remember either
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CPUA 0x5041
Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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You fixed it, ignore my screwup comment
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CPUA 0x5041
Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
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Yeah, I didn't think anything of the <pre> tag you had in the text so I went and hit post knowing that it would look ok. Switched to another window while the page loaded then when I came back I yelped :-P
Perhaps another suggestion for would be for the Quote Selected Text button to change < and > to < and > so that doesn't happen 
James
Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki
"Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile.
And every day we'll turn another page.
Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book,
One brown mouse sitting in a cage."
"One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978
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