Re: Equivalent of IFrame - C# Discussion Boards

Guffa13-Oct-06 6:32

Guffa

13-Oct-06 6:32

JohnBond311 wrote:
I know now that you can view .pdf's in a form, so it must be true you can open any application in a form...

Not true at all. Some applications don't even have a user interface, to start with. Most applications have their own form, and you can't open a form in a form.

The application has to be created specially for being used as a component in a form.

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Christian Graus13-Oct-06 6:53

Christian Graus

13-Oct-06 6:53

JohnBond311 wrote:
but still haven't received a good answer.

Perhaps, but you've probably received a 'right answer'. We don't change the laws of software here, we just report on them.

JohnBond311 wrote:
so it must be true you can open any application in a form...

That's an astounding leap of faith. I know it's possible to buy real estate, therefore I should be able to buy the Grand Canyon. That's what you just said.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

Dan Neely13-Oct-06 7:12

Dan Neely

13-Oct-06 7:12

JohnBond311 wrote:
I know now that you can view .pdf's in a form, so it must be true you can open any application in a form...

No, the reason you can view a pdf in annother app is because Adobe wrote a pdf reader COM component and that component was then embedded into the application. The PDF viewing is not due to the stand alone acrobat reader being embedded.

Dave Kreskowiak13-Oct-06 7:17

13-Oct-06 7:17

Everyone else might shoot me for this...

But, it's "kind of" possible. Not every application will support this and this is by no means(!!) a supportable solution, so don't even think of selling this to a customer or doing a company-wide deployment with it.

You have to launch the application you want to "host" first, then wait for it to create it's parent window. Once created, you have to use the Win32 API functions FindWindow, FindWindowEx, or GetWindow to get the window handle of the main form of the target application. Once you have that, you can call the API function SetParent[^] and the window handle of YOUR host window to re-parent the application window into your own form window. If you want to move that hosted window around in your form, you'll have to call the API functions, like SetWindowPos, to move it around and resize it.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS NOT A SUPPORTABLE SOLUTION!! IF YOU USE IT AND HAVE A PROBLEM, WE'LL DENY WE EVER TOLD YOU ABOUT IT!

Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

Christian Graus13-Oct-06 7:42

Christian Graus

13-Oct-06 7:42

*grin* See, we didn't tell him that because we knew he would ignore the caveats.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

Dave Kreskowiak13-Oct-06 7:47

13-Oct-06 7:47

Hence, the very large disclaimer! :->

Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

JohnBond31113-Oct-06 8:39

JohnBond311

13-Oct-06 8:39

Thanks for your response. It's nice to get a response that that doesn't assume I'm an idiot. Seriously, was all the sarcasm necessary? I don't feel it's appropriate to belittle someone when they have a valid question. Of course I left out the details of viewing a pdf (I knew it was due to a COM component), but that doesn't mean I didn't know the details.

But thanks, Dave Kreskowiak. I will use your suggestion... and don't worry, this is just for my own computer.

John

Dave Kreskowiak13-Oct-06 9:06

13-Oct-06 9:06

Most people don't know about this little trick. Hell, I didn't know about until about 3 months ago. I've found it has limited uses, such as, what happens when the user quits the application? Test your code thoughly through every possible action.

The number of quality questions comming from people that "have a clue" is pretty low. I'd say the number of questions that we get from script kiddies, newbies, and wannabes, trying to do something WAY beyond their skills/understanding of Windows, is about 15x that of people who actually have any kind of clue about how Windows works. Next time, I'd recommend differentiating yourself from "the crowd" by putting a little blurb in about your experience and what you think you have to do to get something to work.

Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

JohnBond31113-Oct-06 9:50

JohnBond311

13-Oct-06 9:50

Good advice, thanks.

As far as your suggestion, SetParent works great for making a window a child of another window of the same application (for example, you can parent a notepad window within another notepad window), but it appears that cross-application parenting doesn't work with this method. Thanks for your suggestion though, I really appreciate it.

Any other ideas out there, supportable or not?

John

Dave Kreskowiak13-Oct-06 12:51

13-Oct-06 12:51

Like I said, it's of limited usefulness and doesn't work for all windows/applciations. But, it's the only solution out there. The only other way to do it is if the application you want to "host" has a COM component you can use.

Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

Anthony Mushrow13-Oct-06 13:54

Anthony Mushrow

13-Oct-06 13:54

Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
The number of quality questions comming from people that "have a clue" is pretty low. I'd say the number of questions that we get from script kiddies, newbies, and wannabes, trying to do something WAY beyond their skills/understanding of Windows, is about 15x that of people who actually have any kind of clue about how Windows works.

Im not like that am i? i ask quite a few questions... not like this but y'know... Frown | :(

Guffa13-Oct-06 9:49

Guffa

13-Oct-06 9:49

JohnBond311 wrote:
Seriously, was all the sarcasm necessary? I don't feel it's appropriate to belittle someone when they have a valid question.

I don't really think that someone tried to belittle you, you only got replies to the question that you asked. Perhaps the replies were way below your knowledge level, but not below the level that you showed in the question. Judging only from your original question, you seemed rather clueless about components and how applications work.

Also the comment about not recieving a good answer to your previous post did make you look like someone who asks things that is impossible, but not being content with the answer that it's impossible asks the same question over and over.

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JohnBond31113-Oct-06 10:04

JohnBond311

13-Oct-06 10:04

Guffa wrote:
Perhaps the replies were way below your knowledge level, but not below the level that you showed in the question. Judging only from your original question, you seemed rather clueless about components and how applications work.

Agreed. In the future I will try to explain myself further in detail. I posted in haste earlier, hoping for a quick answer. I was offended by the Grand Canyon remark, and I still fail to see the benefit one would receive from such a statement. But as I said, next time I'll be more thorough.

Guffa wrote:
Also the comment about not recieving a good answer to your previous post did make you look like someone who asks things that is impossible, but not being content with the answer that it's impossible asks the same question over and over.

Again, haste is to blame. I shouldn't have used "good" and I meant to thank the persons who initially responded. I started this new thread because my old one had been buried under all the new posts. I did not intend to give the impression of asking over and over. I am happy with the responses from this post, aside from the Grand Canyon remark.

Although, I'll admit it is a rather funny analogy.

John

Creating virtual partitions in C#

Dan Neely13-Oct-06 10:36

Dan Neely

13-Oct-06 10:36

JohnBond311 wrote:

Agreed. In the future I will try to explain myself further in detail. I posted in haste earlier, hoping for a quick answer. I was offended by the Grand Canyon remark, and I still fail to see the benefit one would receive from such a statement. But as I said, next time I'll be more thorough.

As Dave's said the large majority of new posters are relatively clueless, and that fair or not anyone new to the board tends to be percieved that way until they demonstrate otherwise. I'd no idea Dave's solution existed, and your pdf example using a technology that wasn't generalizable made you appear less skilled.

bunnyEATINGrabbit13-Oct-06 6:01

bunnyEATINGrabbit

13-Oct-06 6:01

I need find out how to create a virtual partition in C# (or if it's impossible, in C++). So WinXP should think there is one more partition on my hard disk, or that there is another hdd connected or smth. I need to be able to load the actual partition the same way daemon tools load the iso images, from a file...

How do i do that? Any clues?

Thank you.

bunny EATING rabbit

Daniel Grunwald13-Oct-06 7:12

Daniel Grunwald

13-Oct-06 7:12

I think you have to create a device driver for that. The .NET Framework cannot be used to create device drivers.

bunnyEATINGrabbit13-Oct-06 12:54

bunnyEATINGrabbit

13-Oct-06 12:54

Then how do you create a device driver? For instance in C++ or C?

bunny EATING rabbit

mav.northwind13-Oct-06 22:16

mav.northwind

13-Oct-06 22:16

First you'll have to download the DDK from Microsoft.
Included are samples (in C++) on how to create drivers.

Regards,
mav

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