XML / XSL

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

5-May-02 2:56

The problem is your commented out line was being taken as instructions to the transformation processor not as output. Try Essam's suggestion as it is the simplest. And drop a message back. My concern is it may stay as the encoded text in the output. But just because I have never done it that way so what. You may need to force this line to be text output. Look at the processing instruction:
<xsl:text>Most any data here.
There are limits to this also but it is what I have used most often. I also use the output instructions to not have any text output that is not explicit such as this line:
<xsl:output method="text" encoding="utf-8" media-type="model/vrml" indent="no" cdata-section-elements="Script">

I do this so as to not pickup extra linefeeds etc.

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Domenic Denicola5-May-02 6:24

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

5-May-02 6:24

I think there's quite a bit of XML data your missing from your output, remember to substitute < and > in the right places.

Besides that, replacing it with < and > didn't work for the !DOCTYPE. It just outputted the actual text of

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

Any other ideas?

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
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Michael A. Barnhart5-May-02 8:47

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

5-May-02 8:47

Yes I did not check the display message as is (no HTML). Blush | :O

I was just adding the xsl:text tag that essam mentions above. There are also option to not add all of the text (line feeds etc.) to the output.

My Sample lines were approximately:

<xsl:output method="text" encoding="utf-8" media-type="model/vrml" indent="no" cdata-section-elements="Script"/>


<xsl:template match="X3D">
<xsl:text>#VRML V2.0 utf8
</xsl:text>
<xsl:text># [X3D] VRML V3.0 utf8
</xsl:text>
<xsl:apply-templates select="Scene"/>
</xsl:template>

This is the begining of my translation file for converting X3D models into VRML97. Lets see if I get it right this time.

There are a number of sites with info here.
One example is the w3schools site
http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/el_text.asp
and zvon
http://www.zvon.org/xxl/XSLTreference/W3C/xslt.html#element-text

both on the partners links on CP.

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Domenic Denicola5-May-02 11:29

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

5-May-02 11:29

This works great! Thank you so much!

But now I've got another question... Should I do the same thing for my <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> that I want at the very top of the output document, or will this be done for me? From what I've seen using XSL Tester to view my XHTML output, this is done for me, but it gives me an encoding="UTF-16", which I don't think is a valid encoding.

Can I somehow change the way this is generated automatically if it is, or is this simply a quirk in XSL Tester and I should do the same thing Idid with my !DOCTYPE, by putting it in that special <xsl:tex> element?

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
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Michael A. Barnhart5-May-02 12:59

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

5-May-02 12:59

I assume that you are using one of the MSXML implementations. To set the encoding see the xsl:output transformation element (at the begining of the transformation), You should be able to set utf-8 with it. UTF-16 is a valid encoding. Most of my work right now is with the Apache line of implementations so there may be some variations. I have shown that DOM and SAX transformations do not always give the same results. I do have some test applications with the MSXML v3 and v4 so I can do some experiments if needed.

<xsl:output method="text" encoding="utf-8"/>

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Domenic Denicola5-May-02 15:16

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

5-May-02 15:16

I am using the MSXSL that comes with IE6 or the .NET Runtime, whichever is newer (I have both installed).

So XSL will generate an <?xml...?> declaration automagically, which can be controlled by the <xsl:output> element?

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
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Michael A. Barnhart6-May-02 0:45

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

6-May-02 0:45

I can say that the xml declaration is not allways output. With the output line shown earlier it should never be output. Just add it with the xsl:text line if needed. The output line will set if encoding is utf-8.

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Domenic Denicola8-May-02 12:22

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

8-May-02 12:22

So, my XSL should like like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<xsl:stylesheet version="1.0">

	<xsl:output encoding="utf-8" />
	<xsl:template match="/">
		<xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">
			&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?&gt;
			&lt;!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"&gt;

		</xsl:text>

		<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" lang="en-US">
			<!-- Stuff here -->
		</html>
	</xsl:template>
</xsl:stylesheet>

And this will output:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" lang="en-US">
<!-- The stuff that was where the comment was goes here -->
</html>

If you're not absolutely sure, could you write me quick program or give me the JScript code (not .NET) to just output the text? Whenever I do a view source in IE, it just gives me the original XML.

I would do that myself, but I'm stuck on this Windows 98 until I get a new hard drive Frown | :(

Thank you!

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
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Paul Watson9-May-02 0:06

Paul Watson

9-May-02 0:06

There are two ways to output the DOCTYPE.

One is using the OUTPUT method in XSL, like so:

>xsl:output method="html" doctype-public="-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" doctype-system="DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd" indent="yes" /<

The other, is easier but probably not such a good idea. It uses the XSL:TEXT and CDATA section methods:

>xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes"<>![CDATA[>!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
	   "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"<]]<>/xsl:text<

This one also baffled me for awhile until I found the OUTPUt method, happy hunting.

regards,
Paul Watson
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Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

Michael A. Barnhart9-May-02 0:46

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

9-May-02 0:46

Paul,
Nice to see you back. I hope this is not temporary.

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Paul Watson9-May-02 6:14

Paul Watson

9-May-02 6:14

Thanks Michael, it is semi-temporary. I have not been off of CP voluntarily, but rather I have been at the mercy of my internet connection which deems CP an unforgivingly slow site.

However our new line should be in within the week and I shall be back next week.

I miss the place Smile | :)

regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

Domenic Denicola10-May-02 3:59

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet

10-May-02 3:59

The output works GREAT for the !DOCTYPE, and is much preferable to the method I got from above (enclosing it in a <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes"> section)

But... I'm still stuck on getting my <?xml...?> into the output, as I am really trying to output XHTML, not HTML as the above <xsl:output> you posted says (and all good XHTML has a <?xml...?> declaration, as it is XML).

Will this automagically appear, with the encoding specified in the <xsl:output> tag? Or do I have to put it in a <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes"> tag?

Again, I could figure this all out myself without bugging everyone if someone would just write a program that takes in.xml, and using transform.xsl outputs out.xsl. That's all I need! I have one that is supposed to do this called XSL Tester, but it's rather screwy (always outputting a <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?> at the top, no matter what I do with output or text tags.), and doesn't use the .NET version of MSXML so I'm never sure if that's really what's going to happen. Heck, I could send you the source code if you would compile it!

Thank you for your time and help,

-Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337]
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Domenic Denicola10-May-02 4:08

Re: Outputting a !DOCTYPE declaration from an XSL stylesheet (pantyshos

10-May-02 4:08

Actually, now I have a working solution, but I'm getting the idea it's bad practice, and wanted to know if it is.

I enclose EVERYTHING in a:

<xsl:text>
   <!CDATA[[
     <!-- There's a bunch of XHTML here, 
including the xml processing instruction and the 
DOCTYPE, but it's parsed as simply text.  Is 
this good practice?  Because it's convenient! -->
   ]]>
</xsl:text>

section. It works, and it's very convienient. Whenever I want to output something using template rules, I simply end if with a ]]></xsl:text>, write the xsl element, then restart it with the <xsl:text><!CDATA[[. But... this just seems kind of wrong... but it works... but it seems wrong... but... so, what do you think?

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Paul Watson12-May-02 23:24

Paul Watson

12-May-02 23:24

Domenic [Geekⁿ] wrote:
But... this just seems kind of wrong... but it works... but it seems wrong... but... so, what do you think?

It works, just like using pantyhose to fix a broken fan-belt in a car works. However as soon as you can you should get a new proper fan-belt, right?

I had a crushing deadline which forced me to use the xsl:text method to output the DOCTYPE.

However what happened was that when a third party tried to programatically query my XSL documents to gather some info for an integration project they failed to get the DOCTYPE. I eventually re-coded my XSL docs to use the output method.

So the answer is; Yes it works but don't do it if you can avoid it. Your XSL docs will be technically better and easier to maintain in the future if you use the proper output method.

regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

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Microsoft Sharepoint Portal

tho28-Apr-02 15:45

tho

28-Apr-02 15:45

Hi there, anybody using Microsoft Sharepoint Portal? If any one know how to customize the sharepoint enviroment or where to get more web part, please help me! Thanks all.

Tho

Re: Microsoft Sharepoint Portal

MS le Roux28-Apr-02 20:26

Re: Microsoft Sharepoint Portal

28-Apr-02 20:26

Go to the Microsoft site and search for Sharepoint. You'll find plenty of information there.

You can get a bunch of web parts here.

tho29-Apr-02 1:20

tho

29-Apr-02 1:20

Thanks a lots, MarSCoZa! It is really helpful, do u know how to set the SMTP
setting to use the email notification feature in Sharepoint? How to made it automatically send email to approver after document have been published.

Thanks !

regards, Tho

Re: Microsoft Sharepoint Portal

MS le Roux29-Apr-02 2:00

XML with special characters

29-Apr-02 2:00

I haven't worked very intensively with Sharepoint, but from the User's help it seems you have to do the following:
1) In Windows Explorer, expand your workspace (under My Network Places)
2) Right-click on the Documents folder and select Properties
3) Select the Approval tab, and fill in the details

Stefan Spenz25-Apr-02 3:11

Stefan Spenz

25-Apr-02 3:11

Hi all,

I'm having problems displaying a '&' in an XML tag.

<senderaccname>dssdsd&sdsdsd

When I run this on a XSL Stylesheet, I get the following error:

Ein Semikolon wurde erwartet. Fehler beim Bearbeiten der Ressource 'file:///C:/WINNT/SM.XML'. Zeile 33, Position 29

Semicolon expected. Are there any special handlings for characters like these?

Thx

Stefan

Re: XML with special characters

MS le Roux25-Apr-02 4:31

Re: XML with special characters

25-Apr-02 4:31

Try & or & if you want to show an & character in your output.

Stefan Spenz25-Apr-02 22:35

Stefan Spenz

25-Apr-02 22:35

MarSCoZa wrote:
Try & or & if you want to show an & character in your output.

Hi,

thanks for your answer. Could you please provide all sequences for all the five special characters (I think its five) because I don't know where to look for on the web.

Thx a lot!

Stefan

Re: XML with special characters

MS le Roux25-Apr-02 22:55