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It's funny that this forum popped right when I needed it!
This is the only time I've ever "lifted" a smiley from CP and put it into a company email (Sorry Chris!), see if you can guess which one.
I got an email from my counterpart at one our other sites. He's asking what the impact is on our Tivoli database if he takes all the hardware out of a machine and drops it into another case. OK, fine. I told him nothing, so long as the mobo and hard drive gets moved over with the O/S intact.
Then I read a little farther down and he says that he's been told to replace the case on every Dell GX270 computer they have because "they don't look good"! Mind you, the machines do get a bit dusty in our environment, but nothing that would warrant this.
...Uhhhh... yeah... like we've got nothing better to do!
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: This is the only time I've ever "lifted" a smiley from CP and put it into a company email (Sorry Chris!), see if you can guess which one.
Probably  ? 
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 You are correct! ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: "they don't look good"
Someone should try suggesting that they look better after a few drinks. 
led mike
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I've recently had a somewhat similar experience in which certain people on the team I used to work with wanted to completely re-write an application because they wanted to use the intellisense feature of Visual Studio.
Apparently, for some people, there is no better use of a companies resources than changing aesthetics.
Phil
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Hey, I also almost bought a new case. I, however, refrained from doing so when I learned the price of the case I had laid my eyes on.
However, my case is now printed neon red with neon green stripes and purple-metallic dots.
PRETTY!
Cheers,
Sebastian
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Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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I once inherited a WinForms app, .NET 1.1. The devs who made the app up until that point were comfortable with ASP, but didn't know jack about WinForms. I think it was their first experience with .NET.
They needed to pass values between Forms. They decided to do it by putting the values into a hidden ComboBox, and passing a reference to the ComboBox between the Forms! Instead of just creating an ArrayList, they actually drag-dropped a ComboBox onto the MainForm and set the Visible property to false.
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Josh Smith wrote: They needed to pass values between Forms. They decided to do it by putting the values into a hidden ComboBox, and passing a reference to the ComboBox between the Forms! Instead of just creating an ArrayList, they actually drag-dropped a ComboBox onto the MainForm and set the Visible property to false.
Oh dear Lord...sounds like they didn't understand how to share data between classes, which indicates very little OO experience, let alone .NET WinForms. 
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Judah Himango wrote: Oh dear Lord...sounds like they didn't understand how to share data between classes, which indicates very little OO experience, let alone .NET WinForms.
Yep. It turns out that people will pass data between pages in ASP by putting them in hidden dropdowns (I was told this by an ASP guy, but can't verify that it's kosher). When the folks who made that WinForms app decided to use a ComboBox as their collection of choice, they must have never considered that there just might be better ways to go about it! 
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Sob!
However, if we're talking about pure ASP, in high school I just used sessions to grant persistency between pages. Dunno if this can be done in .NET, i'm not into it 
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Jeez! They shared a ComboBox, so what's so hard about the data in it!?!
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic
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I saw an equivalnet at a client site ages ago where the main form had several hundred labels on the bottom, each with "Visible=False".
Turned out the dev was using them as "variables that have a change event" 
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I came across something similar when I was hired at my current company. I was porting a VB.NET application to C# and noticed that the original developer was using DataGrids as business logic class members to hold data. I guess he wasn't familiar with the System.Data namespace.
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Let me start with one of my own from my days when I either didn't understand or didn't trust VBScript
Function TestBit(Value, Bit)
TestBit = ((CLng(Value) And CLng(Bit)) > 0)
End Function
All I'll say is that I was young and foolish.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: didn't understand
Most likely since I've seen this code in C, C#, VB...
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Chris Maunder wrote: didn't trust VBScript
Can hardly blame you there... damn context-sensitive "and"s...
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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That reminds me of a previous boss who made us initialize all C++ pointers to null TWICE (just to make sure)
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"pointer = null; pointer = null;"?
Well... very interesting. However, I suppose it doesn't make the problem solved.
I would rather use:
"while (pointer != null) pointer = null;"
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When I was first learning C#, I had an attitude about it. I was hardcore C++ before that. Now, I love C#, but anyhow...
So, I was writing a unit test, and I needed to have every third item do something in a list. I forget what. I knew about Math., and I looked for Math.Mod. Obviously, it's not there, it's the % operator. Which I should have known. But, I was having a bad day, and, cursing C#, I wrote my own mod function.
A year or so later, this code was found by someone and sent to the entire company on our social mailing list. I knew right away what I'd done, and I'm glad it happened ( what I did was atypical at the time, but now I'd all the more remember it and dig deeper for obvious stuff that isn't where I first look for it ), but I sure did feel a goose when I saw it and realised that what I wrote was superfluous.
C# was my first major language change ( I'd done Python and other stuff, but always C++ at the core, C# was my first change of core language ). I suspect I was a case study for how NOT to approach such a major change. Hopefully the next time things change like that, I'll take it better.
I guess the other lesson to be learned out of this is the importance of code reviews, which this particular company does not do, to this day ( I floated it once or twice and got laughed to scorn ).
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
"I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Christian Graus wrote: the importance of code reviews, which this particular company does not do, to this day ( I floated it once or twice and got laughed to scorn ).
I've floated that idea and the response has been it would be wonderful to do, but we don't have the time.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: I've floated that idea and the response has been it would be wonderful to do, but we don't have the time.
The response back should be:
How much time have we spent doing things over because they weren't done right the first time? A code review would have prevented that.
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In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: ...but we don't have the time.
It's amazing how many companies find time to redo something, though.
"We don't have time to do it correct up front, but we have plenty of time to fix it on the backend."
"Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed" - 2 Timothy 2:15
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
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Code Complete has real-world statistics on which techniques spot the most defects. Code Reviews win (with the suggestion that just reading code by different people do the trick for defect finding). And empirical evidence that Increasing QA cost does usually not increase overall cost.
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Having been through several code reviews over the past few years, they do help so long as the people involved in the review understand the objective of the code and its context. Sometimes, major problems are avoided by this process.
However, there will be one or more persons involved in the review who consider formatting more important than the functionality.
Phil
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I heard peterchen used vbscript recently. 
"Great job, team. Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails."
(Spottswoode "Team America")
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