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I decided to create an ActiveX commponent which will find the application by PID.
If it doesn find the PID, the app is not running, if yes Ill do ::SendMessage to the window of the app
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Hi all
I am new to the area of "software architecture" . Could anyone please provide me links/books and subjects to look for to know about the job of an architect ?
redindian
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If your very new, then start with Patterns, I prefer to start with Head First Design Patterns and go with GOF( Gang of Four) Patterns by Erich Gama
And you know the Road to go ahead.
Regards,
Vythees
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I disagree. Architects are responsible of programming in the large, whereas DESIGN patterns are standard solutions to solve problems in programming in the small (as the design in the name already says).
And a side note:
Yes, yes I know there is no clear boundary between architecture and design, no need to write that to me 
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You need to understand your client's needs, technology to archieve their needs, and design a solution of their needs.
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus
"Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
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Almost any application in our company interacts with data sources. As the number of applications and data sources grows it becomes very difficult to support our information system. To avoid this we decided to develop some "common gateway" - middle tier that will be used by all applications that need to access any data sources. Also we plan to implement WCF for this task.
What do you think about this?
Does anybody know any existing solutions?
Thanks.
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I don't have an answer for you but a question:
A single "gateway" will surely simply the "layout" of your system (applications, data sources, ...) but will probably introduce a bottleneck, because all applications have to communicate with this gateway.
When performance is critical then a more SOA like approach (not exactly sure if SOA is the right term, though) by building a system where services interact on there own. When each service has a clearly defined task then this approach is clearer and more scalable then a Gateway approach.
But it's very difficult to give a perfect solution for all possible systems
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“A single "gateway" will surely simply the "layout" of your system (applications, data sources, ...) but will probably introduce a bottleneck, because all applications have to communicate with this gateway. “
Our test application, built on WCF processes about 200 client requests per second. Average number of rows returned for one request is about 100. Hardware – is our oldest server based on 2 CPU’s Pentium3. It does not seem to me to be a bottleneck.
“When performance is critical then a more SOA like approach (not exactly sure if SOA is the right term, though) by building a system where services interact on there own. When each service has a clearly defined task then this approach is clearer and more scalable then a Gateway approach.”
If we take the approach where a numerous services will interact on there own and will have a clearly defined task –there will be almost the same problems that we have now: different applications (or services) will access different data sources at anyway they like. At the same time “Gateway approach” provides the full control over interaction with data sources – very useful in case of finding bugs or performance issues. This approach also gives an opportunity to implement some kind of “business layer” –that will be common for all developers.
I consider WCF to be the perfect platform for building SOA-oriented applications. So “Gateway” is not necessary the “one” and “only” service in the information system. If there will be some central repository, where the elements of business logic will be held – we can use any number of this “Gateway” services according to our needs.
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You almost convinced me, but one last concern:
With a single gateway you risk to get a monolythic solution (everything is stuffed into one place).
What do you plan to prevent this? How to you keep good extensibility and maintainability?
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For this reasons (performance, security,maintainability) we can use several instances of services. They can share common repository or have it's own. Besides data sources these services will be able to communicate with each other or any external web or wcf-services.
In general we are going to achieve extensibility and maintainability by using some common model of business logic that will accommodate our needs.
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After reading the other posts, too, I think that you have a nice concept for your solution. Reminds me somewhat of CAB (Composite UI Application Block) where the CAB is the central part that coordinates all others, just like your Gateway coordinates DataSources and client applications.
Best luck with your approach. And maybe you can provide us with some information how it worked out in a CodeProject article - would be very interesting.
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I think you should see this: www.datumnode.com
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Thanks for the interesting link.
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The way I think:
You need a data provider factory, which returns an IDataSource. Any new DataSource provider would be implement the IDataSource. Once you have a default implemention (base class) of the the IDataSource, you could effectively use the provider pattern to return the datasource.
Effectively, the client would talk with the factory to return the appropriate data source provider.
Now, how you talk with the factory host, could be decided on the performance, deployment plans, ease of applying updates etc. A simple webservice hosting the above mentioned factory should get your started ?
But again, it does not sound like a good idea to have one webservice datasource provider for all the applications you use unless its the same datasource which is being used.
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With this “gateway” we plan to implement some kind of business logic – that will be common to all developers. In this case, not only “data sources will be the same” but developers will even have no idea with what database they are actually interacting with.
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rokford wrote: To avoid this we decided to develop some "common gateway" - middle tier that will be used by all applications that need to access any data sources. Also we plan to implement WCF for this task.
I don't think I understand. You are going to run all queries and result sets through the gateway machine?
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Not machine but by common service (or services).
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I like WCF for the communication, but I am concerned that you are looking to roll your own gateway mechanism. The problem with this approach is that you have to cater for all situations because you can guarantee that, sooner or later, somebody will want to do something that your gateway just isn't designed to do. More importantly, they will have a valid reason for doing this, and you will either have to extend your gateway or you will constrain what they can do.
Another issue, is that there really does come a time when your application needs to know what the data source is. For instance, you may want to insert a record into a database that has an automatically incremented primary key - but not all databases support this, so you need to have some mechanism to generate the key for this database.
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From my point of view accessing a data source and retrieving data is the task that can be formalized quite well. ADO.NET is a good example of this. Unlike ADO.NET we plan to implement some middle tier that will common for all applications (developers). So the main task is to access different data sources using some abstract model. You should not think that application "knows nothing" about database - it knows enough to get required information from database. But there will not be connection strings, stored procedures ,etc.
"Another issue, is that there really does come a time when your application needs to know what the data source is. For instance, you may want to insert a record into a database that has an automatically incremented primary key - but not all databases support this, so you need to have some mechanism to generate the key for this database."
In our company we always use stored procedure instead of direct sql statements. So in this case there must be a procedure like "insert_something" that hides away how primary key is generated - with auto increment or using sequences.Of course,it's implementation will depend on what database is being using, but at the same time it will transparent to client applications.
So we do not want to create some universal language for all databases- but organize all these databases (connection strings,user credentials,stored procedures,ets) is some abstract model and make it accessible by all applications using different protocols and communication technologies (due to WCF)
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But you still haven't answered the question about what happens when somebody legitimately needs to do something that your gateway just isn't designed to do?
I haven't got a problem with the idea of formalizing the way you communicate with databases, this is just good design, but there will come a time when the gateway just won't cope 100%. The question I'm asking is, what is your strategy going to be at this point in time? Are you going to have a team to manage the gateway separate from the team who write the applications? It's not a good idea for the two groups to be one and the same.
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Actually I don't understand your question. Can you give some examples?
Without it your it seems to me something like "What you are going to do if ADO.NET (.NET,Oracle,MS SQL.) just won't cope 100%"
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rokford wrote: Unlike ADO.NET we plan to implement some middle tier that will common for all applications (developers). So the main task is to access different data sources using some abstract model.
That is what a DAL is for. There is a very good reason that a DAL is a library and not a tier. By making it a tier you are adding significant application performance penalties for a perceived benefit that is still completely unclear to me.
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We found some interesting solution but not sure it will accommodate our needs.
http://wcf.netfx3.com/files/folders/development_tools/entry11198.aspx
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