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Hi Martin,
Martin# wrote: Don't like this one, cause I tend to Up-vote good answers, instead of down-vote someone
I understand that, but maybe you should down-vote bad articles, messy stuff, wrong answers
as much as you upvote good, clean, correct entries. Anyway, all is relative, so the
idea was you have to take some in order to be able to give some (or give some, so you
can take some?).
Anyway, as long as votes are free, you could vote 5 for all but a few entries; that's
a lot of work to indicate you did not like those few entries...
BTW I am happy with a 4 too.
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Hello Luc,
Luc Pattyn wrote: so the
idea was you have to take some in order to be able to give some
Now I understand the idea better.
Hmmm, would mean a little changing in my behaviour but I think the idea of "peronal rating balance" is something I could like.
For that reason I would suggest a fancy symbol at the user profile which tells me the actual value.
Luc Pattyn wrote: Anyway, as long as votes are free, you could vote 5 for all but a few entries; that's
a lot of work to indicate you did not like those few entries...
Sorry, I don't understand the meaning of: "that's
a lot of work to indicate you did not like those few entries"
Maybe you could use other words.
Luc Pattyn wrote: BTW I am happy with a 4 too.
All the best,
Martin
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Hi Martin, if there are say 10 entries in total, and you vote 5 for 9 of them because you
like them, it would be a lot easier to downvote the single one you did not like. That
is what I meant to say.
Greetings
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Ok Luc,
But that's excactly the point, why I didn't liked the idea at first.
I think I than would faster vote a "1" in this situation, for an article which normaly would get my "3".
So, like I said before, it would need my changing of rating behaviour, to make this system run fair.
All the best,
Martin
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Luc Pattyn wrote: how about collecting statistics on the votes given by someone
(and also, but separately, the votes given to someone)
Great idea.
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Are you trying to catch the Yahoo Answers style? 
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Another idea might be to take the user's average vote into account when assigning the final score -- if my average vote is a 1, this gets normalized towards 3, if my average vote is a 5, this gets normalized towards 3 as well.
This also encourages people who only vote 5s to vote on other things as well.
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Hi Phil,
you are right of course, a self-calibrating vote could be an improvement;
but poor Chris will soon need another vacation if we keep throwing good ideas
at him...
And there is a problem with the articles/messages one does not vote for:
with your proposal people MUST vote on almost everything they read.
Proof: say someone skips voting when "fair" or "good", but he votes 4 for "very good"
and 5 for "excellent", (and lets currently ignore a rather infrequent 1 for "terrible");
assuming for a moment an equal amount of fours and fives, those become something
like 2.5 and 3.5 after calibration, hence an implicit 3 ("fair/good") would fall
in between "very good" and "excellent" ??
And if one treats all non-votes as 3, then those implicit threes would be the vast
majority (assuming most members read only a small fraction of articles/messages)
and one would not see any differentiation any more.
Hence: people should always vote, and intend a non-vote as "don't care"
or "no opinion", but certainly not as "fair" or "good" or "average".
That would be quite a change in habits, I havent seen much threes, and I think
I never gave one.
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One might also see an increase in people throwing 1s or 5s on random messages just so their "score" stays close to average. There would be major tweaking required with a system like this, and I think it's more trouble than it's worth.
I would rather see voting done away with, with an option of flagging a message/article as exceptional (so the number of exceptionals would determine your ranking, with no option for a univoter to strike). Of course you would still leave the ability to flag a message as abusive.
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Sounds good to me. Currently I use 4/5 for something good, 1 for something very bad and abuse for .. .well ... abusive posts :P
I use 4/5 quite a lot but hardly ever reach for the 1 so doing away with the numbers and just having "exceptional" would be perfect
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I think there has been, conservatively, a shitload (probably more) of suggestions on how to deal with voting and all manner of other things, time for someone to "nut up" and implement something already.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Chris,
We do have the option to mark our post as "general,fun/Joke,question,news" before actually posting it. Why not you provide the same for "search comments" page? this would help the "search" function to filter out the rest of the type and thus resulting on a faster search. We can also have a fifth option "ALL" in case the user doesn't know the type of the message. This would scan through all the messages without filters.Like the idea?
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it took me a couple of months to find the "search comments" thingy in the first place;
the big Search box on the top of the page was drawing my attention (but not returning
any forum threads).
I would like to suggest to add "Discussion Forums" to the combobox that currently
only says "Articles" and "Authors", maybe, just maybe, in doing so some of the questions
(and their replies) will not appear over and over again.
And maybe there should be a way to search both Articles and Discussion Forums in a
single operation, like "I'm stuck on SerialPort, show me all about it".
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Luc Pattyn wrote: I would like to suggest to add "Discussion Forums" to the combobox that currently
only says "Articles" and "Authors", maybe, just maybe, in doing so some of the questions
(and their replies) will not appear over and over again
Excellent.I guess Chris would like it.
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I like that idea.
Brad
Australian
- "Bash.org" on "The opposite of Love"
<+pf_work> what's the opposite of <3?
<Lokii> h8
<Rodry> </3
<sdoherty> >3
<Lems> !<3
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sounds useful.
Brad
Australian
- "Bash.org" on "The opposite of Love"
<+pf_work> what's the opposite of <3?
<Lokii> h8
<Rodry> </3
<sdoherty> >3
<Lems> !<3
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Yes - this is being implemented
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Also, the Search is not available for non-tech messageboards like Lounge, Soapbox, Suggestions etc.
Forget about Soapbox, at least for Lounge and Suggestions, it would be useful.
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: Also, the Search is not available for non-tech messageboards like Lounge, Soapbox, Suggestions etc.
Search is available for every forum. See the "Search Comments" link at the top right of the forum you are currently in
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Thanks Chris.
Actually, when I was mentioning about search in MessageBoards, I was just thinking about the 'Search in MessageBoards' that comes from the results page of 'Article Search' right?
Only after you have pointed out this, I just noticed this link. 
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Hello,
Do you have a blog ? , I guess so, we all like CodeProject and check it regularly, the thing is that you don't know about one author, until you check his article, then if you are somehow curious like me, you have a look at his bio and jump to check his blog, so I just want to gather the blogs of CodeProject authors, and make an OPML list, then I will publish it to some common URL, so everyone can import it into his RSS Reader, I think this is a good idea because, when you like one author's article, you get keen to monitor his blog, and read more about his experience and endeavors, please if you are interested about this initiative, and you think you have a good blog that you want to expose it to CodeProject members, reply to this post giving the URL for your blog's feed mentioning the technologies you blog about; so I can categorize the blogs easily, and also if you have any comments to make it better, please don't hesitate!
Awaiting your feedback..
Kareem Shaker
http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
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suggestion: disable/hide the Delete/Modify choices as soon as a reply is present;
this avoids an abundance of orphaned replies in the forums.
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Just like a Foriegn key in a database?
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Luc Pattyn wrote: Delete/Modify
Delete, yes. I cannot stand orphaned replies, makes it hard to follow the thread sometimes.
Modify, not really. I've found myself misspelling something or leaving something out and go back to modify it right away.
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
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I agree, the ability to improve a message is good.
With a modify button hiowever, you can also clear it completely, which I would like to avoid.
So it would be better to have Delete and Modify being replaced by Append, or something
similar, giving an opportunity to add to the bottom of the existing entry;
or by an Update button, that gives restricted editing possibilities, inserting whatever
you want, but not removing entire words or sentences.
Alternatively a "Modify" after some replies are present, might duplicate the text, keeping
the first copy read-only (maybe shown in gray), and allowing any modification you want,
to the second copy (all inside a single message of course).
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