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Christian Graus31-Jul-07 23:44

31-Jul-07 23:44

We can understand your problems

1 - you can't understand your book
2 - you can't use google
3 - you can't understand clear advice.

None of this is our fault. We're trying to help, but you're refusing to listen, or to consider the mores of this group, some of which are common to all websites ( like, don't flood the forum with your repeated requests )

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

"I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

leckey1-Aug-07 3:21

leckey

1-Aug-07 3:21

Could this guy maybe just be a troll?

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Jonathan [Darka]31-Jul-07 23:55

Jonathan [Darka]

31-Jul-07 23:55

dona jain wrote:
i hav read book many times but not able to implement them practically

That says more about your ability than any lack of help from toxcct, who incidentally tried to help you. Your question was too generic, "Please help me learn how ?" when you can't follow a simple book or spend a little time on google.

The best way to learn any aspect of programming is to try it, understanding any errors you get and thinking things though is far more usful to you than someome just telling you.

If you can't be polite when you post on the Code Project site, then don't post here at all.

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toxcct31-Jul-07 23:57

31-Jul-07 23:57

you stupid idiot cannot speak english (no, SMS is not english) and you don't enven listen at what i said to you... W(hy)TF should i listen to you anymore ?

BTW: you've been marked abusive, poor dork Suspicious | :suss:

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David Crow1-Aug-07 3:06

David Crow

1-Aug-07 3:06

Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Tox? Big Grin | :-D

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toxcct1-Aug-07 3:10

1-Aug-07 3:10

sincerely ?
pretty fine Smile | :)

...'cause it seems that i wasn't alone that time Laugh | :laugh:

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ThatsAlok5-Aug-07 23:17

ThatsAlok

5-Aug-07 23:17

toxcct wrote:
for u..read it ..toxcct

Famouse Tox!

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For the record

Christian Graus1-Aug-07 0:03

1-Aug-07 0:03

Your extreme behaviour has inspired some extreme responses, but the truth is, we're all here because we like to help people. The issue here is the manner in which you've asked, what you've asked, and how you've responded to good advice. I seriously doubt you 'know C++ well', unless you've come from *nix or something, you obviously know nothing about Windows programming ( GDI is the subsystem that handles all drawing in Windows, you can't write a Windows program without using it ). That's fine, but you should do some things if you really want help

1 - pick the right forum. You said C++ .NET, if you meant that, this is the wrong forum, the C++/CLI forum is for that. Having said that, C# is a better .NET language and easy to pick up from C++. Also, more people use it, so more support. This forum is for MFC/C++, which is still a better C++ option, in my book.

2 - ask clear, specific questions. Try to research things first. You plainly don't have a book on forms, and you plainly haven't played with the IDE, or you'd have found the designer that allows you to design forms, for .NET, or for MFC. Asking this sort of question shows you've done nothing to find your own answer, which doesn't make people want to help, it suggests you're not willing to learn for yourself.

3 - when people ask you for more information, or tell you that your question is too broad, respond with grace. You're still getting free help, and it seems you need it.

I sincerely hope you find a way to recover from this first experience, and benefit from the use of this site.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

"I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

Re: For the record

dona jain1-Aug-07 0:13

dona jain

1-Aug-07 0:13

i apologise for my behaviour sir...but i was at a condition that i cannot explain...anyways sorry for my behaviour...thanx for your consideration.

Re: For the record

Christian Graus1-Aug-07 0:15

1-Aug-07 0:15

Like I said, we really do want to help, I recommend considering this a lesson learned, and trying to use the site again in a day or so, when everyone has forgotten this episode. It's really a great resource, and we really are here to try and help you.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

"I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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dona jain31-Jul-07 23:34

dona jain

31-Jul-07 23:34

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toxcct31-Jul-07 23:37

31-Jul-07 23:37

there's no need to delete a post i replied to, to just reask it exactly the same way 1 minute later... Mad | :mad:

I gave you advices[^]. it's up to you to follow them or not, but don't expect more from the community then.

one last thing. "help" is not a correct subject for a question. Sleepy | :zzz:

ps: you've got my '1' ! Suspicious | :suss:

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Christian Graus31-Jul-07 23:43

31-Jul-07 23:43

1 - don't delete your posts, how rude
2 - don't ask something again when the answer is already visible two posts below
3 - don't use 'help' as a subject line, it's meaningless
4 - try not to ask questions that are too broad to answer in a forum post
5 - try not to ask questions without first typing them into google, for example 'GDI C++' will give you tons of information

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

"I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

Jonathan [Darka]31-Jul-07 23:49

Jonathan [Darka]

31-Jul-07 23:49

dona jain wrote:
i know C/C++ very well

I doubt that very much, else you'd have the skill set necessary to pick up C# very easily.

Jonathan Wilkes
Darka[Xanya.net]

mandanani31-Jul-07 23:57

mandanani

31-Jul-07 23:57

Firstly those who post for any help should make it clear what they want. And they shouldn't expect spot on answers. Usually directions towards results will be shown. After all we are not slaves here.

Second, commenting/mockering on once knowledge is not good.

Please spare me for any mistakes here Smile | :)

Jonathan [Darka]31-Jul-07 23:59

Jonathan [Darka]

31-Jul-07 23:59

mandanani wrote:

Second, commenting/mockering on once knowledge is not good.

When that person is rude to a long standing member of this site it is not necessary to be nice back to them.

People who cannot follow the very simple and obvious rules do not deserve respect, especially when they are rude and ignorant (and no, I don't mean you mandanani Smile | :)

, just the idiot who started this.

regards,

Jonathan Wilkes
Darka[Xanya.net]

toxcct1-Aug-07 2:05

1-Aug-07 2:05

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