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Hello guys.
I have xperienced a problem with two of my hard drives.I had them connected on my friends' PC and when I took them to work to copy some things, they jus died.Firstly they opened, but now they cant open.When I connect them, the PC doesnt power on.I have them connected as slaves.I went back to the friends' PC to connect them again and now they dont open there either.
They have ver delicate information I cant affort to lose.So please guys, can someone help me with ways to retrieve this data.I knw now that they have been infected with a virus.But how do I retrieve the data back.
Thank you in advance.
kagiso
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Its doubtful that a virus can make a harddrive permantely not start, because it does not have the really really low level access, both of both hardware and software.
Since the computer doesnt power on (how far does it get? fans start spinning? screen turn on? bios show something) it could be a master/slave conflict, (unlikley) Most likely it could be static damage, or physicall abuse (ie that a chip has been crushed).
if this is the case replacing the hdds electronics (which is easy) with one of exactly the same model, and close production date, you should be able to get the data back.
Dont give up on the hard drive. Keep trying. Just dont do anything till your are sure it is the best thing you can do. As you might have limited time or tries in some cases...
You wrote "I have them connected as slaves.", well they can both have jumper pins set to slave, but only if they are on seperate IDE channels... It also seems strange that both die at the same time? How could this be? Tell us more info..
There is alot of information about hdds dieing since it is quite common, so like google around
As a start you might want to look at Hard Drive Recovery Part 1[^] And all of its parts, My Hard Drive Died | Scott A. Moulton[^]
//Johannes
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Well, when I say, "I connected them as slaves", I mean, one at a time.What happens is that when I connect them(because they do not have OS on them), I had to connect as slaves and the jumpers are set to slaves, the power doesnt come on.Fans came on once then died.Nothing came on again.No bios, no screen.Nothing.U switch on, nothing happens, and I mean, complete darkness with no ohm of power.
I mite have to try the electronics method coz my boss suggested something about the board underneath the drive, maybe its faulty.So he mite have to replace it for me.Thank you so much, you have been helpful.I will keep you posted if I manage to get there.
kagiso
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Slave/master has nothing to do with there being an OS on the disk. It has to do with which position on the ribbon cable they're plugged into, and each ribbon needs a master disk to control it, if you only have a slave drive it won't work.
Be aware that by breaking the cleanroom seal to do a circuit board swap you're allowing dust into the mechanism and massively reducing the drives expected lifetime as a result. If this works immediately copy all your data off the repaired drive and don't use it for anything else ever again. The other thing to consider is that if the data on the drive is worth paying a professional company several hundred to several thousand dollars for data recovery any sort of physical manipulation you do is going to greatly decrease the odds (and increase the expense) of getting your data back if it fails.
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You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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dan neely wrote: Be aware that by breaking the cleanroom seal to do a circuit board swap you're allowing dust into the mechanism and massively reducing the drives expected lifetime as a result.
Ive taken apart many many hard drives, probably around 50 or so, some really old (20 mb) and new ones (120gb) i cant remember any drives which when the electronics board is removed air-tight seals are damaged...
Because both in new hard drives and old the wires go though air tight seals too, and all these wires are snap-off or simply pushed onto the board.
I can imagine some might have it, but its not very common.
//Johannes
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I'll take your word for it, I was repeating what I'd been told by others, but never've dismantled a drive myself to look, although I've been tempted to replace my ancient halfgig drives enclosure with Plexiglass and use it as an external just for giggles..
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You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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dan neely wrote: I've been tempted to replace my ancient halfgig drives enclosure with Plexiglass and use it as an external just for giggles..
A friend of mine has done that, its quite neat to see the head skip around for different sectors. If you gonna do it, try to get a hard drive that doesnt have screws in the center of the metal lid (ie like a screw in the center of the spindle, or ontop of read-head swing arm)
They still go bad after a while (even if its in a clean room) since theres allways some grain which falls inside and tumbles around
You can just take one and unscrew it right now, and smack it into some old computer and it will work fine with like windows and stuff for a few days (unless you decide to play with it like i end up doing )
//Johannes
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That is a very educated insight Johannes.Will sure do that, or not do that
kagiso
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Thank you Johannes.I appreciate the insight.
I will sure follow it
kagiso
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Im glad i could help
//Johannes
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matjame wrote: the power doesnt come on.Fans came on once then died.Nothing came on again.No bios, no screen.
POST should happen before the machine goes anywhere near initialising the IDE or SATA connections. I'd suggest that the problem has very little to do with the drives, and that in fact you've either knocked out the power connector to the motherboard or blown the PSU.
Have you tried another drive in this machine, or these drives in another machine?
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I have one major problem. Can anyboday help me ....Here is a problem
1] I want to access my office computer from my notebook. It is working fine. But On my office machine if I connet to a dialup network of my client (which is must to run my application) I dont get connection of the office Pc from my notebook. It says that teh remote computer is busy.
How should I solve the problem.
2]
Is there any live chat avalable to get the support from.
Its Very Very urgent please help
Thanks
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If you have one major problem, which one is it? Question #1 or question #2? Ah heck, I take a stab at both of them. Notice in my response that I'm using the American colloquial version of the square bracket, also know as the "parenthesis":
1) Dialup network? Are you insane? Why don't you connect your laptop and desktop with a CAT5 cable, and dial out to the remote client machine?
2) There is no support. You're on your own. Cowboy-up and deal with it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I'm in the very early stages of creating a very simple home network, and had a question about connecting the printer.
In this picture, the wireless router is one without an internal print server. The printer is connected to one of the RJ45 ports on the router. In this scenario, would the laptop or PC be acting as the print server just as it would if the printer were connected directly to either of them?
My utlimate question is whether I need to get a wireless router or a wireless router with an internal print server.
Thanks,
DC
"A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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You can get one of those single-port print servers (most are wireless AND wired). It would be cheaper than a) buying a network printer or b) buying a new router. It would also save wear/tear on the PC that you would otherwise be using as a print server, and would save in electric bills as well since powering up a PC costs a lot more than powering up a little printer server.
Look on NewEgg.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I have to buy a router anyway, just wasn't sure if I needed one with an internal print server or not. If I get a router without an internal print server, which piece of hardware handles the print jobs? When the printer is connected directly to the PC, the PC will handle the print jobs. I'm just wondering if this same thing holds true when a wireless router sits between the PC and the printer.
"A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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DavidCrow wrote: If I get a router without an internal print server, which piece of hardware handles the print jobs?
You can have the PC working as a print server for a networked printer, but it will mean that the PC will have to be on for you to use the printer.
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Craster wrote: You can have the PC working as a print server for a networked printer, but it will mean that the PC will have to be on for you to use the printer.
Which is the situation I was trying to avoid. Thanks anyway.
"A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Then John's solution is the way to go - cheap and simple, and no need to have the PC running.
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Hi all,
While working on my pc, it automatically gets an error in a blue screen saying that physical memory dump complete. After this, I am forced to restart my system. When it gets restarted, there is a pop message saying that "The system has recovered from a serious error". Can anyone of you aware of this problem. Could you please help me out to solve this problem.
My System configurations:
Intel P4 2.4ghz dual core
asus motherboard
512MB RAM
Thanks and Regards,
Hariharan C
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Hi,
Blue screen errors occur mainly due to hardware failure. The next time you encounter such an error make a note of the stop error message cos only by using this code we shall figure which hardware is causing the problem.
Feroz.
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Firstly, when this happens, you normally (on Windows XP and Server 2003), the "The system has recovered from a serious error" message box prompts whether to send information to Microsoft about the problem. I would recommend doing this - if this is a common fault, they may already know about a fix.
If you are in a corporate environment, they may have turned error reporting off. Check in Control Panel, System, Advanced, Error Reporting. It may not be possible to turn reporting back on.
This sort of problem is commonly a driver bug or a hardware issue. Check to see whether there are updated drivers for any of your hardware. Ensure that none of your hardware is being overclocked - the rating on the component is considered by the manufacturer the highest safe speed to run that part at. Check that cooling fans are working, are not blocked (e.g. by a build-up of dust) and that there is sufficient ventilation around the PC - to work most effectively, the cooling fans need to pull in a source of cool air. If kept in a confined space, the warm air does not dissipate and the heat exchange cannot take place, so the temperature-sensitive components do not cool down.
Consider checking that your computer's RAM is still OK. Use a tool like memtest86 or Windows Memory Diagnostic[^] to check it.
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BSODs are caused by drivers.
If you have installed any hnew ardware/drivers recently, or upgraded any drivers they are suspec. Uninstall them and try see if it solves the problem.
If not, you might have failing memory, ror a very rare crash.
Crashes can be accumulative. When the system BSODs, system files can be damaaged. This can make crashes more and more ffrequeny
t. So always take a system back up. I use Ghost. You can then o back to a stable image.
If you really want to know what the bug is, install WinDbg.exe, and open the crash dump you will find in either Minidunp or the windows dir.
Wen it has opened, type !analyze -v at the prompt, and it will auto analyse the crash. This will often point to the driver. Gogle the sys file named, and see if it is a known issue, or if there is an upgrade.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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I have a portable USB HDD. No external power supply.
From yesterday onwards, it is not working properly. It's taking long time to copy files. and most probably it ends with time out.
I checked for Bad sectors but there's no problem with the data.
Next I doubt on the case which I'm using. It's a low cost one. I've assembled the HDD some time back(3-4 months). Is the controller making the issue(??)
What could be the issue?
-Sarath.
"Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin
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I think there is no problem with your Hard Disk, I have a Htachi 80 GB 5400 RPM 1.8" Harddisk with a Zippy's case (Rs 200/-) I got it nearly 1 yr back. I had the same problem. All I did was defragmented the disk. Next it was fine again. many a times if you connect your Disk to older USB 1.1 interfaces it would become 1/10 times slower. Don't worry your external drive is in Good Health.
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Regards...
Shouvik
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