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Jeremy Falcon wrote: but you'll have to pry my C/C++ compiler away from my cold dead body before I let it go.
they will have to pull all 10 of them from mine... on about 4 operating systems! 
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Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.
Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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El Corazon wrote: they will have to pull all 10 of them from mine...
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i really like 2008, but i still miss the block selection mode we had in VS 6.0
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VS2008 supports block selection. Position the cursor at the start of the block, hold down the Alt key, perform the selection with shift/control as usual.
Software Zen: delete this;
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One of the great benefits of MS and Windows - a standard, consistent user interface. 
Gary
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Huh? I wasn't aware there was a 'standard' Windows keyboard method for performing block selection.
You can't use the same method as normal text selection, since it treats text as a single-dimensional stream. Block selection treats text as a two-dimensional block of characters. Adding the 'Alt' key to the normal sequence seems reasonable and intuitive to me.
Or are you arguing it shouldn't support block selection?
Software Zen: delete this;
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ClearSense wrote: i really like 2008, but i still miss the block selection mode we had in VS 6.0
My argument is both the "consistent" and the "standard" user interface. ClearSense suggested it disappeared; you qualified by telling him how to do it. Did ClearSense have a brain fart and forget how to do it because he loaded a new version of VS? Doubt it.
If its implemented and works, doesn't that become the "standard", at least for that program?  Whether it is a "Windows" standard or a VS standard, it is still the standard.
Too many times the UI is changed and learned things have to be unlearned and relearned, yet MS touts it's consistent Windows UI as a benefit to using and developing for Windows. Vista is a great example of what BS this claim is. All user documentation needs changed - "click on File, then..." Oops, no "File" on the menu. "We changed Explorer to be consistent with Vista." And Vista was changed because...?
Windows CE to Pocket PC - totally changed the UI, causing documentation and code rewrites with no added benefit to our customers.
Gary Wheeler wrote: are you arguing it shouldn't support block selection?
No way. The real argument is "why is it (along with copy, paste, insert, delete, format of blocks) is not a Windows standard?".
Go back to the 80's with WordStar, still the champ of word processors. ^KB, ^KK, ^KN to mark a block of COLUMNS, i.e. position 5-21 for 7 rows - 2-dimensional. I don't know if Word can even do that 20+ years later. ALL VERSIONS of WordStar worked the same way. And it could be 10 minutes between the ^KB, ^KK, and ^KN operations - didn't matter. Windows "standard" is do something else while selecting (bump a wrong key) and it forgets the selection and the process must start again.
Of course, now that I know there is the Alt block select capability, I'll have to try it in other MS products. Thanks.
Gary
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2008 Is the slowest there is!!!
2003 is great and 9 express really rocks
But VIM IS THA SHI*
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Try ViEmu on top of VS2005 -- very slick indeed 
--Greg
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Has anyone else noticed that the incremental linker frequently crashes in VC++ 2008?
The resulting extra time messing around with multiple projects does kind of put a damper on the whole thing!
modified on Monday, February 04, 2008 5:48:09 AM
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I agree with you, although I no longer use MFC or code in C/C++. From what I gather, older versions of the IDE are preferred for MFC development.
/ravi
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