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cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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about a year(????) ago some idiot was posting garbage of some sort to the soapbox. A few minutes later it'd get abused off, and he'd immediately repost it only to have the same thing happen again, and again, and again, and again.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4....
-- El Corazon
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Either this is broken or the delete threshhold's really high. Despite being slammed it doesn't appear that any of his messages are actually being deleted.
And on the univoter defense front, the check for vote spamming appears to be missing for the abuse link (haven't tried spam).
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4....
-- El Corazon
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I'm seeing it marked 'Message Removed'
dan neely wrote: the check for vote spamming appears to be missing for the abuse link
I'll check this.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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At least in the most recent thread he drooled over all the message removeds were him replying to a post of someone elses that was deleted but his messages were still visible here as of an hour ago.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4....
-- El Corazon
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Yusuf wrote: This guy used Arabic to post "I wish you were next to me". I don't know what it means, but I don't think it is appropriate to threaten any one in CP forums.
I think threatening someone in English or any other language does not have any place in CP.
This makes no sense. Saying to someone, "I wish you were next to me", is as far from threatening as you can get. Perhaps you meant something completely different.
"Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Maybe Dear, but I think something was lost in translation, not that I've ever seen that happen before here. 
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4....
-- El Corazon
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DavidCrow wrote: This makes no sense. Saying to someone, "I wish you were next to me", is as far from threatening as you can get. Perhaps you meant something completely different.
well, let me explain then
1. You need to look into the discussion to understand what led to this. Just only a single post does not give the full picture.
2. The guy changed a language from English to Arabic. What was the reason for changing the language? Why didn't he use his Broken English. He was not trying to convey a message that he could not convey in English. He tried to hide behind a different language. Good thing I knew that language.
3. There is a cultural element to the post. I have lived in many countries. Each culture has its own way of showing anger, violence, love and hate. what is acceptable in one culture it is completely different in another.
4. I pointed few of his garbage posting and was trying to inform CP users not to waste their time responding to this guy. Someone beat me with similar posting, and I seconded that. His reply was, don't go after me or else "I wish you were in front of me" (meaning what? why does he wishes I was in front of him. In the culture and context he is talking means harming someone.) If this is not threatening, then what is? Would you tolerate one user going after another by using smear tactics (through words)?
5. Finally, I want to keep CP free from all unwanted venting of one's frustration, hate or idiocy. I don't lower myself to such thing. I have higher standard and refuse to be dragged to such idiocy. That is why I choose to report it, rather than take it to my own hand.
just my 2 cents.
Yusuf
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This is almost comical.
Yusuf wrote: ...was trying to inform CP users not to waste their time responding to this guy.
This has been tried for many years. Some folks just can't seem to stay away from pointless arguments and debates. Some posters just thrive on how many "fish" they can catch. This is also known as "feeding the troll."
Yusuf wrote: If this is not threatening, then what is? Would you tolerate one user going after another by using smear tactics (through words)?
Last time I checked, they were just empty words. Seriously, do you actually feel threatened by words over the Internet? 
Yusuf wrote: 5. Finally, I want to keep CP free from all unwanted venting of one's frustration, hate or idiocy.
Lots of luck.
Yusuf wrote: I don't lower myself to such thing. I have higher standard and refuse to be dragged to such idiocy.
Good, and neither do I. Why, then, worry about someone else doing it?
"Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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DavidCrow wrote: Yusuf wrote:
If this is not threatening, then what is? Would you tolerate one user going after another by using smear tactics (through words)?
Last time I checked, they were just empty words. Seriously, do you actually feel threatened by words over the Internet?
I was not threatened at all. I was not in any way in harms way. But I don't want to be a member of any group that tolerates venting of such words through the Internet. That is way I reported it. I don't think CP will tolerate some one venting through a use of words. There are acceptable ranting ( have done may times here in CP) that does not point at any one. What I don't want to see someone venting over others.
I have seen harsher words used here in CP which I don't accept them.
DavidCrow wrote: Yusuf wrote:
I don't lower myself to such thing. I have higher standard and refuse to be dragged to such idiocy.
Good, and neither do I. Why, then, worry about someone else doing it?
I did not worry about his posting. I just reported it so Chris could take appropriate action if he things it is warranted.
This guy have have expressed in multiple posting he want to accumulate posting get next status (silver). I careless whether he gets it or not. My reporting may not have an effect, but if the trend continues with enough people reporting him, there could be an action taken against him.
If I ignore him and every one ignore him, then his actions will continue and what seems trivial today could easily escalate.
Yusuf
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Yusuf wrote: If I ignore him and every one ignore him, then his actions will continue and what seems trivial today could easily escalate.
Actually, studies show that just the opposite will happen. When folks desire attention, either bad or good, and they do not get it, they will move on. It's an age-old premise.
"Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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The best thing you can do is stop replying once you realise they are trolling. I was guilty of talking to said abuser, and then realised he was a troll - at which point, I stopped playing.
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Yusuf wrote: 3. There is a cultural element to the post. I have lived in many countries. Each culture has its own way of showing anger, violence, love and hate. what is acceptable in one culture it is completely different in another.
If that's the case, and in arabic culture the statement is a threat you need to make that clear. As translated in American (generalized European?) culture they're not threatening in the least.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4....
-- El Corazon
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Yusuf wrote: This person's message is not appropriate for the Lounge. What he is saying in Arabic " I wish you were next to me "
That is hardly "inappropriate language", and it certainly isn't threatening. Even if you were to mark the post as abuse, (although I'm almost positive yours will be the only "abuse" vote).
My advice is to ignore the guy and get over it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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It boils down to cultural difference. Once a colleague commented over a code-review session, "you make my skin crawl". I didn't knew what it meant, the third person who was with us, turned red-face and I could see an anger on his face. Later one he asked me if I understood what the other person said, I told him, I had no clue. He called us both to a conference room and explained it what it meant. The guy who said it, felt very bad and apologized. you see, if you don't understand one the cultural tone of some expression it does not give any meaning.
I've moved on...
Yusuf
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I agree with you. For example, in spanish, things that are very usual and non offensive in Mexico would make many people mad in Spain, so does it in the other way. I have had many funny and / or shamely situations since I am in germany because of saying the translation to german of spanish sentences, or just using a word with similar official meaning to the correct one but completely annoying in that context. These misunderstoods can even be without words. Once I was with my brothers and a cousin in a local. When we arrived I opened the door and kept it opened to let my family go in, just behind 2 girls came and I kept the door opened for them as well. One of them said: "Thanks, but I could make it bymyself."  If she hadn't said "thanks" I would have closed the door at her nose. This is because here some women are so "independent" that a gentleman's gest can be offensive for them because they say you are undervaluating the women.
But I do agree with the other people that said about the "trolls", the worst offense for such people is just to be ignored.
Greetings.
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M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
“The First Rule of Program Optimization: Don't do it. The Second Rule of Program Optimization (for experts only!): Don't do it yet.” - Michael A. Jackson
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Some of the articles seem to be in the wrong area. This one for example seemes better suited for the List Controls area.
"Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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I've done a bit of a shuffle
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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someone stole my Email. can I get it back?
modified on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:19 AM
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Okay. I just posted an answer to your last problem, but what do you mean that someone stole your email? 
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I mean that last year i was trying to enter to my email like any other day but it didn't let me sign in and told me that i have invaild username and password nowing that i'm sure of myusername and password
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Tell me what you account name and password was, and I'll try to login as you.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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hehehehe 
No no no i know every thing about social engineering and that wont work with me. 
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I've had problems on the main page (user or password field wasn't long enough). But it worked on the following page. Try it. Even if you get an error, the next page that comes up allows you to login again. See if that works.
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I tried it and didn't work but thanks thought for your suggestion 
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