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15-Aug-02 3:39

I have two clients, each with a three-host workgroup running WinXP, and each group sharing a single Internet email address. Both clients want to be able to email among hosts within the LAN; in both offices, one person is designated to receive and handle Internet emails for the company. I have searched through all of the online help and documentation I can locate, but there is absolutely no information about how to set up interoffice email communication!

Every topic related to email returns instructions about how to set up an Internet email account! Getting unique Internet email addresses is not an option, as the local ISPs will not provide more than one per account. This used to be incredibly easy with Microsoft Mail. What has taken its place, if anything? Or does XP require that every host have its own Internet account with a permanent connection to the 'net?

Has anybody done this, or are my clients the only ones left in the world that want to communicate with their coworkers? Smile | :)

Venet16-Aug-02 22:28

16-Aug-02 22:28

I suppose you've tried using Exchange ? I haven't used it, so I wouldn't be able to say how to set it up! Frown | :(

You can always setup a P100 Machine to act as your mail server under Linux. All you need to make sure is that you have enough free disk space to hold incoming and stored e-mails.

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

Roger Wright17-Aug-02 4:15

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17-Aug-02 4:15

Venet wrote:
I suppose you've tried using Exchange

Nope. It would be completely out of the question for cost reasons alone, disregarding the fact that Exchange is a piece of s*&t. This is a Peer-to-Peer arrangement, and has to be dirt cheap. That excludes even an old foot-warmer PC running Linux. Older versions of Windows allowed a single peer to be designated the 'post office' for the workgroup, and Mail was used to connect the other peers to the po machine. Outlook Express (and I assume Outlook) could be configured for the user's account and directed to the po for the user on the postoffice machine. I expected to find some rudimentary function still included in WinXP.

There must be some way to do this, else there'd be a howling in the trade mags from small businesses who don't own servers. The lack of complaints is a hint to me that I'm missing something, not WinXP. The installation as provided by Dell includes MSN Explorer as well as Internet Explorer, and I'm wondering if the formaer may include the functionality I'm looking for. But everytime I open it, it tries to create an Internet connection, so I'm suspicious that it may be a sneaky way to con my clients into signing up for MSN service.

Have you noticed that you're the only one that replies to my posts here? Are we the only two CPians that do networking and OS maintenance besides programming? Big Grin | :-D

Venet17-Aug-02 4:43

17-Aug-02 4:43

Roger Wright wrote:
Have you noticed that you're the only one that replies to my posts here? Are we the only two CPians that do networking and OS maintenance besides programming?

It seems so. Nature of my job is to write networking software (although this will be only for a few weeks more Cry | :((

), eventhugh I don't maintain any network (manually that is) Smile | :)

.
And all the OS knowledge I learned form my 100 MHz, 32 RAM machine, although it's a pity that life circumstances didn't allow me to start with computers earlier! (only 3 years ago I used a computer for the first time Cry | :((

)

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

Roger Wright17-Aug-02 5:30

17-Aug-02 5:30

Damn! You do remarkably well for having only worked with these things for three years. I've been at it for over 25 years and still struggle to keep up.

I have to admit, though, that I resisted computers for many years. My job was to design electronics, and until after I was laid off, there were no computer tools that did anything to help me with that. Some of the new CAD tools available today would have been welcomed, but they didn't exist, and I could do everything I needed to do with a pencil and paper. My designs needed programs to run them, and these I enjoyed designing and coding, in a dozen languages and as many operating systems and hardware environments. But I didn't start learning PCs until I was unemployed and needing some way to eke out a living.

It's always nice to get your input - I have not one person here to swap ideas with, and no one to learn from. It makes it awfully hard to make any progress. Like this mail problem, I know someone has done it. If I was in a big city (yuck) I would probably bump into someone in a bar one night who could tell me in two sentences how to solve it. But there is no one here who has ever done it, so I'm stuck flailing around in the dark chasing random clues. Frustrating.

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Venet18-Aug-02 2:58

18-Aug-02 2:58

Thanks Roger, I appreciate your ideas as well.

Roger Wright wrote:
But there is no one here who has ever done it, so I'm stuck flailing around in the dark chasing random clues.

I'm the same boots really. I remember when I was in 1st and 2nd year of college, there was absolutely nobody to talk to about different computing issues (of course I haven't heard about CP then). Very very frustrating.
So I had to do everything by experiment.

Now it's very good as the place I'm working on is a research group so they are very clued in to these issues.

Anyway, did you manage to sort out that problem?

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

Roger Wright18-Aug-02 5:16

<marquee>"Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

18-Aug-02 5:16

Venet wrote:
did you manage to sort out that problem?

Nope. There are no clues at all! Everything in XP assumes universal access to the Internet, and that everyone has an email account. From all the information available it would appear that peers in workgroups can't talk to each other using email in XP, and I'm certain that's not true. I bought the MCSE text for XP Professional this week and read it, and it never mentioned the subject, either. I suppose I could write a mini-exchange server and install it on one client machine, but I really don't know where to start with that. There's probably a good example or two on CP, though, so that would be my first place to research the project. But what the heck do small offices do when there's no one around to write custom software for them? Grrrr. Mad | :mad:

Venet18-Aug-02 6:39

18-Aug-02 6:39

I'm not sure how easy would be to setup and use SMTP Server that comes with ISS?

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

Roger Wright18-Aug-02 7:40

changing logo in Windows 2000

18-Aug-02 7:40

I'm not either - it, too, is neglected entirely in the MCSE book. I'm suspecting that maybe the answer is in the Outlook documentation, though it shouldn't be, as there are many other options for email clients that should be usable.

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drmzunlimited15-Aug-02 2:21

drmzunlimited

15-Aug-02 2:21

hello codeproject World !

Can anyone please tell me how to change the Starting logo in Windows 2000 Advanced Server.??
I want to change the starting logo of the Windows
"Welcome to Windows2000 Server Family"
plz tell me how to change that and changing Wait and shutdown logos in Windows 2000?

--thnx
Waiting for a quick reply

Re: changing logo in Windows 2000

Venet16-Aug-02 22:16

How to set quota in VC++ project?

16-Aug-02 22:16

Hmmm, this requires a bit of resource hacking (referring to the app with the same name)

Bitmap that Windows 2k displays is held in ntoskernel.exe (or kernel32.exe file, I'm not sure and it's 8 in the morning) file. Now you might want to consider backing-up this file first, before you do anything with it.

Let's say you made a kernel1.exe copy.

Open resource hacker, edit the bitmap and save the file (kernel1.exe). Make sure that you don't add some bitmap that's bigger than 16 colors!

Open your boot.ini file and copy the Windows Adavnced Server and add this line:

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 New Face" /fastdetect /kernel=kernel1.exe

Restart your machine!

P.S. I don't like your sig

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

Tida14-Aug-02 5:17

Tida

14-Aug-02 5:17

Dear all,
I need to set quota limit for users on a shared folder on a file server.
How to implemented it in VC++?

Thanks

"file access denied"

Pilso13-Aug-02 5:22

Pilso

13-Aug-02 5:22

I can' t open or copy some files. When I try it says "Access denied" and that maybe some other program has access to the file. But there is no other programm running and windows just has finished booting. My PC crashed while it was copying some files from one drive to another. Please tell me how I can reset this "access"-flag or where it is. Maybe with some API - Calls

JAVA sucks!

Venet13-Aug-02 22:43

13-Aug-02 22:43

What version of Wndows ?

What filesystem ( NTFS, FAT )?

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

Pilso14-Aug-02 7:33

Pilso

14-Aug-02 7:33

It' s Windows XP Professional and this drives system is NTFS.

Thanks for your interrest.

Venet16-Aug-02 21:20

16-Aug-02 21:20

In that case you might want to use TakeOwn.exe utility that comes with Resource Kit (it's for Win2k, but should work on WinXP!)

I recently had the exact same problem. For some reason security bits for certain folders were not read properly (or corrupted completely) and each time access denied would occurr. No way to change permissions back!

Used takeown.exe and fixed it fine. So it's worth trying to use this utility, because it does the job. You can even see the OS protected information!

Regards,
Venet.

Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos.

How to signal a system port when windows 2000 has shutdown ?

Bruce Duncan15-Aug-02 9:27

Bruce Duncan

15-Aug-02 9:27

It may be Explorer itself, or one the many new shell extensions that XP seems to be bundled with. I recall reading about this a while back.

Sorry I don't have any more info. I don't use XP.

Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
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MickeM13-Aug-02 0:05

MickeM

13-Aug-02 0:05

Hi,

I was recently involved in a project where we wrote a simple program that listend to a signal on a port (COM/LPT) and on that signal it shutdown windows and after shutting down it sent back a signal letting the system know things went well.

Now I have been asked if this could be done with windows 2000 (/xp) and have been contemplating various ways to achive this. But I cant find any information on how to acchive the "power down OK signal" that is soposed to be sent after windows has shutdown.

Does anyone know how this could be achived ?
(in a simple fashion, I mean writing my own HAL isn't something Im about to do)

And is there someone who might know, ie. does Microsoft have anyone I can ask ?

// MickeM

Re: How to signal a system port when windows 2000 has shutdown ?

Anders Molin13-Aug-02 1:34

Anders Molin

13-Aug-02 1:34

If I understand you correct, then, when Windows Starts up again you wanna send a signal through the port. Is that right?

You can read the last date/time, where windows were shutting down, in the eventlog, you can also read when it was started again.

You can calculate everything needed about shutdowns/boots/uptime from the data in the eventlog...

- Anders

Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

Re: How to signal a system port when windows 2000 has shutdown ?

MickeM13-Aug-02 2:52

MickeM

13-Aug-02 2:52

No, it is when windows *has* shutdown.

Its a bit like ATX power, I want to as the last code executetd in windows (or as late as posible) tell the widget connected to the poert that "windows is now shutdown"...

// MickeM

Re: How to signal a system port when windows 2000 has shutdown ?

Venet13-Aug-02 22:41