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Marthinus wrote: Does anyone know of such a "study plan" or where can I find some kind of walk-through or guideline from beginner to current technology.
I don't know of any one specific plan, but here's my thoughts:
1. You may want to look at your local community college or university to see if there is any classes you can take to augment your skill set.
2. Read up on articles here, find good books, and engage in intellectual dialogue with members on this site
3. Write up articles you feel are beneficial to yourself and other members of this site.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Thanks a lot for your input - I really appreciate it. So I will continue on my path of reading articles online and subscribing to RSS feeds Thanks a lot!
I am free within. I know that all my wrong doings (debt) towards God have been paid for in full by Jesus Christ. Heaven awaits me!!
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hi marthinus
nice plan mate,i think your opinion is great.i get what the point is,knowledge + experience = can catch new technologies more fast and efficient way to .about study plan,as guideline from beginner to current technology,your recipies could be the good way mate.
about my study plan,not for sure,im still wondering can help people around here to pass some exam etc.
and probably can help them create path to success
cheerr......
Yudi
modified on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:43 AM
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Hi guys am in search for tools that will automatically generate comment for sour code.
Even, if its just TODO comment i don't mind.
aas
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This isn't the right forum for this. This forum is for asking about work or training issues. Saying that, I'm feeling nice - you may want to look at GhostDoc[^].
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hi all,
im trying to get MCTS in VS2008.and trying to get a book or other resource that maybe helpfull.is anyone have the same situation like me.
and is it fit to talk about it inside this forum
thnx
Yudi
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Cyhop wrote: and is it fit to talk about it inside this forum
You've picked the right forum.
Cyhop wrote: is anyone have the same situation like me
Sorry - no. I really have no time for these qualifications. I'd rather hire somebody with proven experience, but please don't let me put you off. This is just my preference and shouldn't affect the way you go. I've just had bad experiences hiring somebody with MS certification when it turned out that they didn't have the necessary skills to back it up; it just leaves a sour taste with me. If you have the practical skills to back the qualification up then good luck.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: MS certification
I've wondered about those, coupling one along with my dual degrees.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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hi paul,
lol...,thnx you for your reply.anyway,just want to make me more confidence,that why i try to get that "MCTS".this is could be another preference for IT job,but it not must.doing the real world programming and make mony for that probably the good way is it.......
Yudi
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hi pete,
im understand about your preference ,but just to make some confidence when im dealing with someone else.im just have practical skills along with my experience(probably more that 10 year DIY developer and programer) as my hobbies,so...i've plan this "MCTS" as my study.
last hope is just make money for all this stuff mate....,
anyway thx to all concern about me and this
sincere
Yudi
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I've already gotten my BS in Computer Information Systems. I have a full-time developer job and my company is willing to pay for more training if it will help me do my job better. My main development environment is Visual Studio 2003, 2005 and I mostly develop in C# .NET. I have been as this job for more than a year so I don't have years of experience. What kind of training will prove to be worthwhile? I've read a lot that certifications are becoming less and less important to companies. Are developer conferences good to attend? I've never been to one. Does any one have any other suggestions?
B Rizzle E TTizzle Nemizzle
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bn3m wrote: What kind of training will prove to be worthwhile?
Which areas do you need to improve? What are you about to start work on that you don't understand yet?
bn3m wrote: I've read a lot that certifications are becoming less and less important to companies
It depends on the company. If the company is a Microsoft Partner then the certifications will be important.
bn3m wrote: Are developer conferences good to attend?
Yes. Also look for local user groups.
bn3m wrote: Does any one have any other suggestions?
Read about software development. Buy books on the subject. Keep learning.
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Colin has good suggestions and I'd follow them. Do also keep up on the latest new, emerging technologies, learn how to use them, and make yourself marketable
bn3m wrote: Are developer conferences good to attend? I've never been to one.
I went to the VS2008 product launch from Microsoft in April and learned quite a bit about SQL Server 2008, and it was worth my while. Keep an eye out for events like this, some are free, which is cool.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Hi. I would like to find a VB.Net job board, hopefully run by developers instead of recruiters I was dissapointed when I saw how few jobs were posted on this site. CodeProject is my favorite VB.Net site, I usually look here first for programming solutions.. Is there a VBJobProject??
Thanks!
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pa28140 wrote: I was dissapointed when I saw how few jobs were posted on this site
Give it time. It is a new feature.
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pa28140 wrote: would like to find a VB.Net job board, hopefully run by developers instead of recruiters
Good luck.
pa28140 wrote: saw how few jobs were posted on this site. CodeProject is my favorite VB.Net site
Like Colin said, give it some time. It is a new feature that will likely catch up to speed quickly.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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My colleague and friend Shawna McAlearney (smcalearney@cxo.com) is writing an article about managing tech workers for CIO.com. Could you help her out?
"How tech-savvy does your manager need to be to manage you effectively? For example, does s/he need actual development knowledge? What top three skills MUST s/he have to be effective?"
You can reply to me publicly or privately, but it'd also help if you cc'ed Shawna. If she quotes you, she'll need some "who the heck is this?" info too, such as your name and current title.
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A chair, a whip and a big top hat.
"If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone."
Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War.
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Ha!
Well here's what other techies had to say...
Does a Tech Manager Need to Be Tech-Savvy?
To listen to the techies, any IT manager ought to have deep technical knowledge about everything in the knowledge domain, whether it's network performance or code optimization. Or so the prevailing wisdom goes. When push comes to shove, though, your techies would far prefer that you fine-tune your management skills than compete with them on technical know-how.
http://www.cio.com/article/447783
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eschindler wrote: IT manager ought to have deep technical knowledge about everything in the knowledge domain
Not just knowledge, but accurate knowledge, if I may add.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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how can I get started as a professional programmer ? help me.
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Well, you should gain a good grounding in the basics of programming. You will need to choose a language/area to learn, and try to pick up as much as possible about it. Read a lot. Try a lot of examples and read a lot more. A good education is a really good idea. With the advent of the internet, there is more opportunity for you to contribute to open source projects which are a good way to prove your coding "chops" and this helps to impress prospective employers.
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I'm currently working for a small business of about 18 people. The company is a sole proprietorship, and the owner works here everyday. I do a combination of software development and IT, and I am the only employee here with those responsibilities, and the skills to perform them.
As you might expect, the owner and the manager know very little about development and IT. Even so, I am given very little latitude in which to do my job. The owner is especially hostile toward my solutions and ideas. However, I am generally held responsible for when things fail, even if I have specifically forewarned him of an issue that needed attention.
Is this typical of small businesses? How do you deal with bosses (or clients) who want to either micro-manage every aspect of what you do, even when they don't understand it, or ask you for results while vetoing your proposals?
As an example, I have to develop our internal software. It is a poorly designed mess of Access and VBA code, both from a business and programmer perspective. Whenever I am requested to make a change, I am never presented with the goal or problem. I am never given requirements for changes. Instead I am told what changes to implement, on the order of "add three new buttons, one green, one red, one blue!". They never seem to want to talk about what they are trying to accomplish, and get frustrated with me when I try to understand the "big picture". Often, what they suggest isn't even a viable solution.
How can I get them onto a more reasonable development model, where they present me with requirements or the business problem they are looking to solve, and I come up with the best solution, that works with our data?
One the one hand, I feel like I am paid to do what they ask me to do, but on the other hand, I feel like, as their DBA, I am also responsible for the data, and as their developer, responsible that their software function properly.
I doubt it's an issue of trust -- I have keys and full physical access to the property 24/7. They also understand that I have full access to and control of their data, even confidential data, and why I need it. They trust that I don't snoop through private records, even though I have the ability to. This is pretty usual for System Administrators.
From what I understand, this is not an uncommon small business situation. How do others deal with it?
Thanks for reading!
--Joshua
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I have worked for small companies before. There are a couple of things to get out of the way first, in my opinion.
Are you really happy there?
My experience is that you can't make them or get them to change their minds or influence there ability to make the correct decision for any number of reasons namely they think they're right all the time. This sounds like a very controling environment. I wouldn't try and convince them. They have to want to change and mean it and that's the big part. Without that part it's pointless to try. You'll be fighting an uphill battle with no reason to.
If you're not happy, which it sounds like you're not, I'd update my resume and start looking.
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I really do like working here. It's a very comfortable environment, almost familial. On a personal level, it's a great job. My frustration is mostly on a professional level -- and while it still happens sometimes, I try not to let the work frustrations spill over into personal frustrations. I understand they're doing what they think is best for the business, and try not to take it personally. Sometimes it happens, though.
I feel comfortable doing the technical stuff, but I feel very inexperienced dealing with management/clients. I was mostly wondering how do others deal with it? I might just be going about things entirely the wrong way. I can find a million code samples, but I can't find much on the communication side of development.
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