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Chris Maunder wrote: You are a muppet
I always thought of myself as more of a Fraggle :P
But thanks anyway
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We're used to other developers' asking questions in the forums. I'm not often answering questions, but I try to help when I see the opportunity. I have learned most of the trade from the community, by asking dumb questions and being a general PITA.
We got some more audiences here;
- The consultants that 'urgently' need some copy/paste code
- Those looking for help with their homework
The last one can be split into the group that wants their homework done for them, and the group that genuinely is looking for information. There's a huge difference in the formulation of an answer when dealing with those different audiences.
Is there a way that we can differentiate here? A special forum for homework might help, but we'll get a mix of C#/VB.NET questions in a single forum. That might not be so desirable.
Another option would be to categorize the desired type of answer; 'pointer to info', 'explanation' etc.
Any thoughts?
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A homework forum would be completely out of control and not a single person would really want to dwell in their since it would be filled with users who are too lazy to actually do the homework. A better suggestion (which I believe still falls under your line of thought) is to have a snippet database/library section of the codeproject. This could be used for snippets that may help with homework, snippets that are not ready to become articles, snippets that may just help in general.
This however would be a pretty big project so I don't see it happening any time soon.
Regards,
Thomas Stockwell
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
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Thomas Stockwell wrote: since it would be filled with users who are too lazy to actually do the homework
We got both the lazy and the serious ones, scattered throughout the fora now. The tendency is to assume laziness, once we detect homework (I'm generalizing here) The answer one gets in the forums is most likely to be a short piece of code. That's fine for a consultant looking for a quick fix, but it usually doesn't explain why things are the way they are.
In short, I wanna know if the question-asker wants a short or a long answer
Thomas Stockwell wrote: This could be used for snippets that may help with homework
There are various articles targeting novices. And yes, you can leave a question or a remark on the article-comments if you're having trouble with it. That's not the same as having a place to go when you're having questions..
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There's no way we can be encouraging people to post their homework questions. It's bad enough as it is.
Besides, if people are dumb enough or lazy enough to post their homework verbatim, then they are dumb enough and lazy enough to ignore the "This is NOT a homework forum" message.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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You could point them to the appropriate forum then
Chris Maunder wrote: they are dumb enough and lazy enough
You're assuming that people want to have their assignments done for them. I'm looking for a place with experts where one can ask dumb questions and get an elaborate answer with arguments and explanation.
+5 for not pointing me to StackOverflow
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eddyvluggen wrote: I'm looking for a place with experts where one can ask dumb questions and get an elaborate answer with arguments and explanation.
That's what the forums are for. A question is a question regardless of the purpose. The problem with marking something 'homework specific' is that it encourages people to think 'I can get my homework questions answered? Great! Initiating homework dump in 3...2...'
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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At least they'd dump it in a separate forum, as opposed to the consultants who want urgent codez. Be it paid work or homework - there are always people who will try to make you do their.
You've got a valid point in saying that that's what the forums are there for. Just post a homework-grade question and watch the responses flow in..
I'll be Googling for alternatives
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Chris Maunder wrote: It's bad enough as it is.
I agree that it is not a good idea for a homework forum and it would be open for some serious abuse.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Paul Conrad wrote: it would be open for some serious abuse
Unless, of course, Paypal was involved...
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Evil!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Any plans for CP supporting login via OpenID?
.:. Keno .:.
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Okeno Palmer wrote: Any plans for CP supporting login via OpenID?
Yeah then all the Stack Overflow guys can claim to be CPians
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aww cmon Nish .. they aren't all bad
.:. Keno .:.
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We're definitely looking into it.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Please add another checkbox to the page that appears when you are replying to a member's post by clicking Email:
[] Email a copy to me.
Basically this would be like a bcc to yourself.
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Added to TODO
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I'm getting alot of these this morning on random pages in all areas of the site (sometimes it's just ad's not loading - other times complete pages). Example:
Server Error in '/' Application.
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The resource cannot be found.
Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Requested URL: /script/Forums/View.aspx
I'm in UK using IE7 (10:28 GMT)/
DaveBTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)
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I'm seeing it too.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I've checked all servers and things seem OK from here (and at the moment). Let me know if this persists.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Seemed OK a few hours later and is fine now
DaveBTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)
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I was just curious if you track if an article is being viewed because someone clicked on a google link.
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A view is a view regardless of how it is arrived at.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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What is the criteria for selecting an article for the Monthly competition? Rating only? Popularity?
If it were to be found worthy, how would my "Being a Programmer" article be categorized? It's not for a specific language or framework.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Their are only a select few competitions that are meant for particular languages. If your article does not fall into one of those categories, then I do not believe that it gets considered. Yes, this is a minor drawback to writing articles, but it would be complete chaos if their was a competition for every category listed on the CodeProject. Occasionally their are new competitions, but even then they are only temporary.
I believe the articles are selected with the following criteria:
1) The article must be new and pertaining to the particular article competition category
2) The top articles with regards to popularity are selected to be displayed for each competition.
Regards,
Thomas Stockwell
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Visit my Blog
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