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The fact that no school would assign Hello World, as VC does it for you, and certainly not in Nov, is one reason that this is obviously a troll. But why are you asking him to help you lose our bet ? 
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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 Christian Graus wrote:
The fact that no school would assign Hello World, as VC does it for you, and certainly not in Nov, is one reason that this is obviously a troll. But why are you asking him to help you lose our bet
a "hello world" app is the premise of nearly every book and language. As to why help loose my bet. If I had said "say you were not drinking and I'll help you.. I loose just for influencing the answer.. if you follow my meaning... personally... I just figured it the work of a moron.. but I am STILL new here so you all likely got it pegged (and ps.. i'm in for just 5 bucks... i lose.. just give me the po... mamma didn't raise no welchers.. LOL
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- Just remember when you point a finger at someone else, you are only one finger away from making a fist to hit them with!
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Mel Feik wrote:
a "hello world" app is the premise of nearly every book and language.
True, it's the first thing a professor might SHOW you, not ask you to turn in.
Mel Feik wrote:
As to why help loose my bet. If I had said "say you were not drinking and I'll help you.. I loose just for influencing the answer.
Ah... sly as a fox, aren't you ? :P
Mel Feik wrote:
I just figured it the work of a moron.. but I am STILL new here so you all likely got it pegged
I may be wrong, the levels of stupidity some people achieve still surprises me. It could be an assignment at a sheltered workshop.
Mel Feik wrote:
(and ps.. i'm in for just 5 bucks... i lose.. just give me the po... mamma didn't raise no welchers.. LOL
*grin* Are we talking $5 AU or $5 US ? You know it would cost that to send it, don't you ?
And in relation to an earlier comment, most people here ARE good, but there more than 52,000 members, so you've got to expect one or two strange ones. This guy is not even a member. Even so, I've had a few flame wars, mostly regarding my opinion of US gun law. One great thing about this place is that we can yell at each other a bit, and not hold a grudge. If not for that, I'd have been tarred, feathered and run out of town a long time ago.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
a "hello world" app is the premise of nearly every book and language. True, it's the first thing a professor might SHOW you, not ask you to turn in
there is an instance of this provided in VC6, don't even have to type nothing, just select the 'hello world' app
Christian Graus wrote:
I may be wrong, the levels of stupidity some people achieve still surprises me
I long ago stopped being surprised by the depths of stupidity than an individual can display.
*grin* Are we talking $5 AU or $5 US
US of course... I'd hate to short change you.
I am quite serious about paying up...I owe and I pay... and we are talking what... I have to have 2 beers next lunch instead of four.. i'll survive... so don't give me crap about why you can't accept... you have my email... settle up in private. And never mention we used this forum to make a bet. Oh.. can you accept US currency or do you rather I do the exchange afore sending?
Peace
-Mel
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The greenest grass is NOT on the other side of the fence, its the grass you take care of. Have you watered your lawn lately?
- Just remember when you point a finger at someone else, you are only one finger away from making a fist to hit them with!
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And what is your opinion of US Gun law? That it is ridiculous?
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do you really want to know ( my opinion that is?)... cause i WILL tell you
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The greenest grass is NOT on the other side of the fence, its the grass you take care of. Have you watered your lawn lately?
- Just remember when you point a finger at someone else, you are only one finger away from making a fist to hit them with!
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Jon Hulatt wrote:
And what is your opinion of US Gun law? That it is ridiculous?
That, and that it's silly to try and discuss it with people in the US who have been brainwashed to think that it's their right to be able to kill one another, and that somehow that right means that their government is honest and scared of them.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
That, and that it's silly to try and discuss it with people in the US who have been brainwashed to think that it's their right to be able to kill one another, and that somehow that right means that their government is honest and scared of them.
that was unfair
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The greenest grass is NOT on the other side of the fence, its the grass you take care of. Have you watered your lawn lately?
- Just remember when you point a finger at someone else, you are only one finger away from making a fist to hit them with!
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Mel Feik wrote:
that was unfair
Possibly, but it's also a blunt representation of the view I have formed after discussing the issue on CP over the years, and hearing what to me are insane statements from people I otherwise regard as intelligent. It's clearly a difference of culture, which means the knife cuts both ways, but I still don't get it.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Since you asked, as I'm rarely inclined to give my opinion on much of anyting unless the mode stikes me: I think the US gun laws are a load of cr**. I have an M1, a 410, 2 12- gaueges, a 10 gauge, and an 8 gauge which dont do much, also have a 308 (my favorite deer rifle), 30.06 and a few hand guns. I'm a hunter, not for sport, I feed my family on it. I've been shot once, stabbed twice and never had to bring a gun into the frey.(and on two of those occasions I could)... US gun laws aren't aimed at those of who are law abiding, they are trying to disarm crimmals.. but lets face it, they are crimminals.. if some law is passed that says a particular firearm is out-lawed, do you think that they will get in line to turn it in. I admit that there are too many guns here, but they are here, I cringe everytime a legislative question comes up wether to further disarm the honest citizenery or not. In the end... the crimminals will keep there weapons..all the worse for those of us who obey the law.
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The greenest grass is NOT on the other side of the fence, its the grass you take care of. Have you watered your lawn lately?
- Just remember when you point a finger at someone else, you are only one finger away from making a fist to hit them with!
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Mel Feik wrote:
US gun laws aren't aimed at those of who are law abiding, they are trying to disarm crimmals..
US guns laws seem to me to only exist to ARM citizens, I have never heard of any attempt to disarm anyone.
Mel Feik wrote:
if some law is passed that says a particular firearm is out-lawed, do you think that they will get in line to turn it in.
This is a dumb argument. OF course criminals won't hand in their guns, but if guns are freely available it's much easier for them to get them in the first place. What's more the point is the children and general wackos who get them. We had a school shooting in Australia the other week. The shooter legally owned all of his guns. It was huge news, the first school shooting here I know of. I've read of two in the US since that happened.
Additionally, if my home is invaded or someone tries to rob me, it's unlikely they will have a gun. If I was in the US, I'd have to count on it.
Mel Feik wrote:
In the end... the crimminals will keep there weapons..all the worse for those of us who obey the law.
True for the ones who have them now, and an example of the legacy of the 'right to bear arms'.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Oh Christian - You are really in a troll friendly mood today!
I mean feeding them so much.
Have fun!
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When the gun thing comes up, I just can't help myself.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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ps... need the addy.
and i don't kill my fellow man, i just hunt, but I'm prepared to kill anyone who might threaten the kids... and you being a parent might understand that, I'm not a level playing field here.... there are so many crooks better then I could ever be ( legally ) it is a shame. But I will not be unarmed to the best the law allows!!!
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The greenest grass is NOT on the other side of the fence, its the grass you take care of. Have you watered your lawn lately?
- Just remember when you point a finger at someone else, you are only one finger away from making a fist to hit them with!
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Mel Feik wrote:
ps... need the addy.
Did it not come via email ?
Mel Feik wrote:
and you being a parent might understand that
Hell, yes.
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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pls go back to vb,thx.
![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) vb guys 
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Dear All ,
I got a problem can you solve this,
The user as he moves on the mouse over a Microsoft Word Document,
i should be able to fetch the word at his mouse pointer and display the word
in vc++ program. Usually the mouse points at a character , i should be able
to fetch the whole word. This is only for the client area.
How can i attach to the running instance of word document ,
and how to relate the pixel on screen to the coresponding text (word).
Any idea, how to go about the problem,
thanks in advance,
with regards,
alex.
alex_ludy@yahoo.co.in
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Well, this is a variation on a question that seems to do the rounds quite often. If it's within Word, it may be possible, but I have no idea how. Have you looked at MSDN to see what methods Word exposes via COM ?
Christian
No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Application.Selection is a good automation object to start with. btw, Selection.Text returns the current selection.
How low can you go ?
(MS rant)
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All I can say is that there is probably no easy solution to this problem. To get help you should:
- browse the Word type library ( c:\program files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSWORD9.OLB )
- check out some microsoft newsgroups - there is an excellent search at http://www.tamaracka.com/mssearch.htm[^]. The best Word MVP there in my opinion is Cindy Meister - do a search on her posts and see what newsgroups you get.
- then there's http://www.mvps.org/word[^]
but as I said, I don't think there is an easy solution to this problem.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beierhund das oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
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I have been told to write a list of 27 items, each with 6 subitems describing their colours, shapes, border sizes etc to the registry. In the past I have asociated two comma seperated items, within one registry key, with each other, but with this much data this seeems inefficient.
My question, is there a more efficient way of storing all these related items within the registry?
well hell doesn't want you
and heaven is full.
Tom Waits
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Create a .reg file, and use ::RegLoadKey() to load the hive to the current open key.
Doing so, you don't need to manage all the open key, create value stupid mess.
How low can you go ?
(MS rant)
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Thank you, I will try it out right now
well hell doesn't want you
and heaven is full.
Tom Waits
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VC.NET seems to be even more complicated than VC, and the funny thing is, VC.NET doesnt even come with a dialog editor!? the dialog editor is already bad in version 6 - compared to that of VB, VB is so much more intuitive (I'm refering to the dialog editor. u can edit properties on the side and simple things like a tab control, VC6 support is ridiculous and certainly doesnt live up to the label "visual"....
but when it comes to COM and stuff... not sure... do we still need VC.NET? or just stick with {VC.6 + VB.NET/C#}? Any advantage in addition to backward compatibility?
norm
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norm wrote:
VC.NET doesnt even come with a dialog editor!?
You must be kidding. It's more VB-like, but it's there.
norm wrote:
VC6 support is ridiculous and certainly doesnt live up to the label "visual"
Not quite sure everyone would second that. Especially VC6 has a classwizard to add/remove members, create classes through automation, add event handlers, ... which is no more here in VC7 (actually replaced by a strip down one which for instance does not allow to remove a method once added).
norm wrote:
but when it comes to COM and stuff... not sure... do we still need VC.NET?
Yes and no.
Yes, IDL are not needed anymore since attribute-style programming lets you put interfaces and stuff within your .h declaration. I have to admit I hate it, since it's MS tagging proprietary stuff. And, because it's hardly documented and intuitive (no intellisense here), even if you master VC++, you feel a bit lost. Of course all samples from the DVD are here to help you on the learning curve.
No, the more MS releases APIs and SDKs, the more it obfuscates the actual meaning of a COM object, which should remain simple and debuggable. May be that's because I hate ATL and the macros (a lot of them are obsolete in ATL7, so if you knew them by heart, bad luck!).
Backward compatibility ? You'll get a lot of warning messages (obsolete macros and methods), but existing projects will recompile and hopefully run fine.
About MFC : MS has merged MFC, ATL and STL. Now it's impossible to debug the simplest class : the CString class is replaced will a full stl template CStringT<...> class. Looks powerful at first sight, but eh hope you never have to debug anything around that : that's nasty code!
How low can you go ?
(MS rant)
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