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I doubt it's an IE8 issue, though anti-virus oh-my-god-it's-a-cookie over protection could be an issue.
Or it could be a bug.
I've not seen the issue so it's hard for me to replicate. We did have a bug / request that we dealt with a few weeks ago and so my first thought is that you may be seeing behaviour that may be counter-intuitive (this was the nature of the previous bug).
If you have the time it would be incredibly helpful if you could try and replicate the steps that caused the issue.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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There really aren't any steps to reproduce it. It can happen if I exit IE8 and come back in, or if I leave IE8 with CP open unattended. Just after I posted, I exited IE8 and got back in a few minutes ago and it appears to be OK (so far). If it's not you, then, yeah, I think anti-virus may be the likely culprit. I'll see what I can find.
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The "hint" with the "Do not interpret HTML tags" option seems a bit backwards to me. In fact, it seems that the option is not good for code snippets.
This message was posted with the option selected and thus does not have the syntax highlighting:
<pre>class Sample
{
public void Test()
{
int temp = 0;
temp++;
}
}</pre>
It does seem to keep the spacing, but I would be confused as a new user to need to uncheck the "good for code snippets" option to get best performance for code snippets. With the option to "Encode HTML tags when pasting", I imagine there isn't too much need for the option anymore. (I really like the encode on paste option. Sometimes I take advantage of the option when typing responses by doing a select all-cut-paste to deal with XML fragments or the like.)
EDIT: Some people seem to be misinterpreting my point. I'm not suggesting any changes to "Encode HTML tags when pasting". I like that how it is (hence the ). I'm suggesting changing (or removing) the "Do not interpret HTML tags" option.
modified on Monday, November 16, 2009 5:41 PM
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For reference, here's the same post with the option not selected:
class Sample
{
public void Test()
{
int temp = 0;
temp++;
}
}
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But you don't need to post the <pre></pre> tags with the code. Just press the code block button at the top of the edit page and post your code between the resulting tags. The Encode HTML tags when pasting button is for pasting HTML (and XML I guess), not for pasting ordinary code.
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I think you missed the point of my post. Pressing the code block button generates a pre tag. If you then check the Do no interpret HTML tags option, the pre and code tags don't perform the normal syntax highlighting. Instead the tags appear as actual characters in the visible output.
My assertion is that the Encode HTML tags when pasting option makes it easy to escape all the special characters in your code snippets (and does not need changed). With that option enabled, there is little need for the Do not interpret option at all.
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Gideon Engelberth wrote: I think you missed the point of my post.
Yup, I think I did; my apologies.
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Right. I never use the option "Do not interpret HTML tags", however I use the "Encode HTML tags when pasting" option a lot.
BTW: when they persist their state, IMO options should not use negative wording.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly indented, and rendered in a non-proportional font; hint: use PRE tags in forum messages
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I see it as primarily for when pasting code that contains generic types.
You probably shouldn't be pasting text that already contains the pre tags, but sometimes I write something and mark some part as italic; if I then want to cut and paste that somewhere else in the post, I uncheck the box.
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Errr.... I actually wasn't suggesting changes to the pasting option.
VB +1 for not having to worry about generic type specifications being stripped as HTML
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but also:
VB -1 for having attributes in <> signs, as in <DllImport("kernel32.dll")>
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly indented, and rendered in a non-proportional font; hint: use PRE tags in forum messages
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Chris,
Your post this morning about the last 10 years got me thinking about the future. I've been a member at CP for 3.5 years now and have gone from occasional lurker to apparently a "personality" and even contributed an article.
I've always found CP very useful and have tried to contribute back in some way.
In recent months however I've found myself contributing far less in the serious programming forums, and I think there is a reason for this. I don't know if anyone has brought this up already, or if it's the proverbial and un-noticed elephant in the room. The reason is stackoverflow.com. When compared to the programming forums at CP, SO wins hands down in every way.
When I do visit the CP programming forums I find my self aggravated by some of the things that have been so cleanly fixed at SO.
1) The same questions being asked over and over. at SO you can find the duplicate and close the repeat with a link to the duplicate and it's answers. At CP, you just see a bunch of irritated regulars posting lmgtfy style links. Perhaps this is a failing of the search ability as much as the forums.
2) Bad questions. At SO you can edit questions to clean up the grammer/spelling/formatting, or just totally close questions that make no sense.
3) Misplacement. At SO misplaced questions can be moved to the correct location by the community. (Either re-tagged or moved to alternative sites)
4) Answer ordering. The good answers bubble upwards on SO. The best answer is decided by the community.
Additionally, although I tend to be on the answering side, when I do have questions to ask I get much faster and more detailed responses from questions posted at SO. I suspect this is to do with the rep/badges system at SO which encourages positive behaviour in a far stronger way than CP.
Everyone may not agree with or like everything being done at SO, and they have plenty of their own problems that need tackling (I won't get into that), but the fact is that it seems to be working for them. Right now, if I had a question I would go to SO, and I spend most of my available answering time there (not that it's much these days) because I find it easier, more effective and more rewarding. They also seem to get a much higher quality of question (higher signal to noise ratio as it's often described) because of the ability of the community to filter out the garbage. (And when I do come across garbage, I can actively do something about it). I'm not saying you should just do everything they do, but they do do some stuff better than you.
I like CP for so many of it's features. I like the articles and I like the lounge - I think it connects the users in a way that SO fails to do - but I worry that SO will quickly edge CP out of the market, newer users will head there, and without new users CP will slowly shrink and we'll just be left with a bunch of old timers reminiscing about the good old days. Years ago I remember that most google searches for programming questions frequently resulted in links to CP. Now SO seems to dominate the front page of google search results.
There is no denying that CP's article repository is industry leading, but in just over 1 year it seems that SO has gone from nothing to it's now dominating position in the question/answer domain. Obviously, I don't know what your user/post stats are, maybe my perception is wildly off the mark.
I don't know your priorities, where your incoming users come from, what pages they target or what drives your user base, and perhaps just concentrating on what you are good at (the articles) is better, but I see SO as both a threat and a challenge to CP. I'm sure there is space in the market for both, but it means you need to up your game if you do decide you want to compete on on SOs domain.
I have seen some points in your current work list ("Completing the beta of the new question and answer system", "Testing a new WYSIWYG editor" and "Major changes to the member level / points system") which do sound like they could be exactly the kind of changes that I'm talking about, so maybe you're already several steps ahead of me.
Anyway, sorry for the huge post. I'm going to shut up now.
Thanks again for a great site.
Simon
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Here's a birthday present to you from us.
It's not perfect - a definite work in progress - but it brings together many of the ideas we've had over the last 5 years as to how we can best make our forums more useable.
StackOverflow definitely beat us to the punch and did a fantastic job of tying together the components of WikiAnswers and reptuation systems from various places into a single package. The WikiAnswers / SO way of allowing members to ask and answer is definitely the way things are moving.
So I give to you Quick Answers[^].
I am away at PDC this week so Thiru will be handling suggestions, bugs, improvements for our fledgling service.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: So I give to you Quick Answers[^].
Psst... The code for the Quick Answers link in the menu:
<a href="">Quick Answers</a>
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Not any more .
All fixed. Sorry for inconvenience
Sincerely,
Elina
Life is great!!!
Enjoy every moment of it!
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Wow - Awesome.
You wrote that whole system in the 4 hours since I posted my suggestion. Now that is some fast coding.
I'll definitely spend some time checking that out.
Thanks.
Simon
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IF you're impressed by that; you'll love the quality of fake data populated in it simulating several months of testing...
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Simon Stevens wrote: 4 hours since I posted my suggestion.
More like in the year since I posted my suggestion but whatever...
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
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Now that Quick Answers has been released for a public beta, how about posting a link to it in the lounge? Not everybody reads this forum.
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I am using IE8, and when I hover over the survey panel on the home page, underline appears under all the text in that panel. Moveover, when I go to the survey result page, I can see the underline in the survey result panel.
I think this is due to the malformed "a" element attached to the "List of programming languages" text.
Currently Reading: The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown
Next in Queue: Kill The Messenger by Tami Hoag
- Kirtan
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Yikes. All fixed, sorry about that.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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May i suggest less clutter on the site?!
I find the site Extremely usefull. But the UI is completely out of standard to any forum i've ever seen. It's extremely hard to navigate. And there are no STABLE ads. Sometimes they are UP... then on the left... then at the end of an article.
And colors change everywhere without any reason (not that i can see). There is apparent hierarchy for font sizes.
There is this thing in the upper left corner asking me to subscribe... i've done so but it keeps changing and asking again and again... i keep looking at it every time i look at the menu.
And there is this menu near the top... the green one... it seems quite similar to the one on the left, orange one... but they have some common items and then they go astray.
And that tiny ad in the bottom left, I've never clicked it... it says bullfrogpower... BUT the other font is TOO SMALL. I can't read what it says.
I've counted about 18!!! different colors that get USED... no counting the ads... some for text, some for visited links...
I understand all the ads generate revenue to keep the site up and running.
Is there any way i can change a theme or something or even pay to get rid of the ads?
NOTE: I am not a Dev. I'm actually an Architect trying to learn some C#.
modified on Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:14 PM
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basilmir wrote: May i suggest less clutter on the site?!
I think there are about 6,000,000+ people who actually like it the way it is.
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Thank you for your reply.
I do hope someone takes what i said seriously. There are people who make their living doing interaction design.
Indeed all the information stored here is golden, too bad sometimes you have to look at it through dirty glasses.
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