Bugs and Suggestions

Rajesh R Subramanian27-Jan-10 7:57

Rajesh R Subramanian

27-Jan-10 7:57

Hi Luc,

I actually noted it thrice - a post of mine was voted 5 thrice, and the reputation went up by 4 (or 3?) three times.

If it were the result of some upvoting that occurred on any of my posts in the programming forum, then I'll be extremely happy. My concern was that my posts on the lounge should have absolutely nothing to do with my reputation points, which is directly related to my contributions to the site. I'll be glad if a CP staff could explain.

You could verify this by noting my rep points once, upvoting a post of mine in the lounge, and checking it again! I'm not 100% sure though. I just posted what I thought was happening.

“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

Thiru Thirunavukarasu27-Jan-10 8:04

27-Jan-10 8:04

Luc, sometimes I feel like you're sitting in the next cubicle Smile | :)

I'll add the delay info to the Reputation FAQ[^]. And I'll suggest you weighted votes idea to the team. No guarantees though Wink | ;)

Luc Pattyn27-Jan-10 8:14

Luc Pattyn

27-Jan-10 8:14

Thiru Thirunavukarasu wrote:
sitting in the next cubicle

not sure, there may be an ocean between us, but virtually, yes we could be neighbors.
if we were real neighbors, I'm sure you would know! Laugh | :laugh:

Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]

I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that.
[The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]

Thiru Thirunavukarasu27-Jan-10 8:01

27-Jan-10 8:01

Whoa take it easy Rajesh Smile | :)

This is in fact by design. We're awarding reputation points for posting messages on regular forums and for having your message up-voted. But - and this is a big "but" - these only contribute to your Participation reputation.

Take a look at the Reputation FAQ[^]. Note the forum events under Participation. Also note that points cannot be deducted for having your message down-voted. In addition, there are forum-related events for programming forums. These are under the Authority and Enquirer reputation types.

So, we're really only awarding you points for participating with Code Project in this situation. Just like logging in and signing up for a news letter. As Chris noted before we do grant certain admin-like functionality when you attain a certain number of points but these never have to do with the Participation reputation points.

Rajesh R Subramanian27-Jan-10 8:14

Rajesh R Subramanian

27-Jan-10 8:14

Thiru Thirunavukarasu wrote:
these only contribute to your Participation reputation.

OK, that looks fair then - my bad, I was looking only at the overall reputation without checking which one actually is pulling it up.

Thiru Thirunavukarasu wrote:
Also note that points cannot be deducted for having your message down-voted.

Yes, that was another concern of mine.

However, I'll strongly recommend that these lounge points be much trivial in strength while compared to the ones that are related to what we do in the programming forums (something like 1:10 ratio). But that's only a suggestion.

Thanks for explaining. I'll take a deep breath now. Smile | :)

“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

Thiru Thirunavukarasu27-Jan-10 8:41

Re: Quick Answers Suggestion

27-Jan-10 8:41

Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
However, I'll strongly recommend that these lounge points be much trivial in strength while compared to the ones that are related to what we do in the programming forums (something like 1:10 ratio)

That's what we sorta hoped to accomplish with placing it the Participation group. But I'll still bring it up with the team though.

Quick Answers Suggestion

Douglas Troy27-Jan-10 5:09

Douglas Troy

27-Jan-10 5:09

Ok,

Found something in Quick Answers that should be changed:

I provided an answer to the original poster's question. He followed up with another question about what I suggested, when I try to post an answer to that, my Answer now displays above his. But despite that problem, I think we should have a means to just post messages following answer, so you have a 'back-and-forth' discussion directly below the answer provided, without having to resort to posting more "answers", that really aren't.

My two cents,
D.

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Thiru Thirunavukarasu27-Jan-10 5:42

Re: Quick Answers Suggestion

27-Jan-10 5:42

Absolutely. This is a known issue and it is one of our higher priority items. It's also been discussed a few times on this and other forums.

What we're planning to do is have a mini discussion board for each answer and question. What we have right now is one at the very, very bottom of the page. It's not being used as intended and for a number of valid reasons. Perhaps you could try using this for the meantime? But this would also mean the person you are having the conversation with also use the same mechanism and that's far easier said than done.

So my suggestion, for now, is to do what works best for you. Hopefully this won't be an issue after we've implemented what I described above.

Douglas Troy27-Jan-10 7:16

Douglas Troy

27-Jan-10 7:16

Thiru Thirunavukarasu wrote:
Absolutely. This is a known issue and it is one of our higher priority items. It's also been discussed a few times on this and other forums.

Ah - very good, I should have known you all were on top of things.

I did see the message board at the bottom of the screen, but as you already stated, it's not a good solution for "obvious reasons".

Thanks for the reply,
D.

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Can't view Mentor's forum

DaveyM6926-Jan-10 12:16

26-Jan-10 12:16

Hi Sean,

I'm still showing as a Mentor and I get alerts as I'm watching the forum but I can't access it Confused | :confused:

Dave

BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)

Elina Blank27-Jan-10 1:37

Elina Blank

27-Jan-10 1:37

Hi Dave,

I will take a look into this soon.
Sorry for the inconvenience

Sincerely,
Elina

Life is great!!!
Enjoy every moment of it! Blush | :O

DaveyM6927-Jan-10 13:52

27-Jan-10 13:52

No problem Smile | :)

Dave

BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)

Sean Ewington28-Jan-10 7:36

Sean Ewington

28-Jan-10 7:36

Fixed!

You have access now?

Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project

DaveyM6928-Jan-10 8:19

28-Jan-10 8:19

Yeah, sorted... Thanks Sean Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

Dave

BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)

QA - comments

DaveyM6926-Jan-10 10:29

26-Jan-10 10:29

In the forums we can post a response to any post. In QA we can either post an answer to the OP or post in the forum below the article which if the response needs to directed to the 'Answerer' is not exactly the right place.

Is it possible (I'm sure at this advanced stage it won't be trivial Frown | :(

) to be able to post a comment to an answer along the lines of SO or is this breaching the concept behind QA?

Dave

BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)

0x3c026-Jan-10 10:45

0x3c0

26-Jan-10 10:45

I don't think that it would breach the concept - StackOverflow has a feature which allows comments on a particular message. If coupled with a system which notifies on an edit of the parent post, and a way of moving answers so that they are children posts, I can see how things would get very interesting.

OSDev

Thiru Thirunavukarasu26-Jan-10 10:50

26-Jan-10 10:50

I think you guys are able to read our minds at least as well as we read yours Smile | :)

Thiru Thirunavukarasu26-Jan-10 10:47

26-Jan-10 10:47

Our concern exactly. It's on our list Smile | :)

DaveyM6926-Jan-10 10:56

Down Voting in the Book Reviews Section

26-Jan-10 10:56

Dave

BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)

ProtoBytes26-Jan-10 10:27

ProtoBytes

26-Jan-10 10:27

Hey Chris,

I had a talk with Paul Conrad (also got down voted on a book review), it seems that the population at CP doesn't think book reviews should be apart of The Code Project. Is there any way you can place a header at the top telling the people who go there to read the article that, yes this is CP approved material?

I spent 1 1/2 weeks reading a book that costs $50. I think others should know what others thought about the content of the book, if it's worth the time/money.

See example of my book review for an example:

Sniff | :^)

Writing Great Code Vol 2: Thinking Low-Level, Writing High-Level[^]

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Re: Down Voting in the Book Reviews Section

Chris Maunder3-Feb-10 11:30

Chris Maunder

3-Feb-10 11:30

Done

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Quick Answers [modified]

Douglas Troy26-Jan-10 7:24

Douglas Troy

26-Jan-10 7:24

To the CP crew:

Just wanted to say that I think the "Quick Answers" stuff is cool. I cannot explain why I find it easier to use than the 'normal' boards, but I believe it will allow me to participate more, in answering questions, than I have in the past (I'm sure Chris is now suddenly pondering if that's a good thing or not).

Just makes it quick to "jump in", bang out a few answers and then get back to work. (ok, I guess I can kind of explain why ... )

Good job.

Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

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modified on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:48 PM

Re: Quick Answers

OriginalGriff26-Jan-10 22:44

OriginalGriff

26-Jan-10 22:44

The main thing I don't like about it is probably down to how I use it. I tend to just go fopr the "unanswered" list, and answer if I can.
With the forums, I look at existign answers, and sometimes either add to or correct them. I also learn things from other peoples answers - I don't do that for QA stuff, because I don't look at it.
As I say, it is probably my own fault, but I think the existing forums work better.

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Re: Quick Answers

Thiru Thirunavukarasu27-Jan-10 5:20

27-Jan-10 5:20

It's still very much a work in progress. If you have any specific complaints or suggestions please let us know. You might want to check out the Quick Answers FAQ[^] and Reputation FAQ[^] for more info.

Re: Quick Answers

Thiru Thirunavukarasu27-Jan-10 5:16