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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: But sometimes, the "answer" is telling the OP NOT to post duplicate questions.
If someone posted a duplicate question and removed it later he/she has earned the -10 points in my opinion.
In any case, others will still see the thread in the forum because the initial post can only be blanked by the poster (not completely removed). To make life easier for others I'd recommend downvoting/reporting duplicates (or let the original poster remove it)... others can see what is going on and ignore it.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Besides, I sometimes answer a question, and then delete it.
No problem, as long it was not replied to by someone else.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: A BETTER suggestion would be to immediately remove the question from the list of questions if its been deleted. In fact, I came here to make that very suggestion.
Good idea (if there are enough moderators), my suggestion is for questions deleted by the original poster with at least one reply.
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The entire problem is that the question is still listed, even though it's been deleted. The fix is to delete the question from the list of questions. There's no need to muck around with points and such.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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The issue I see is that there are people in the C++ message board who sometimes delete their initial post (example). It is not about duplicates, but about rude behaviour that could be reflected in their reputation as enquirer: Assume a member who posted 5 questions and blanked them after receiving answers, he will gain a negative enquirer status (with my suggestion), doesn't sound like a good idea?
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Our suspicion is that this doesn't happen often. I'll still add it to the TODO list but we probably won't be able to get to it for a while.
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In case you didn't catch on (or for anybody else who happens upon this thread in the future), he was talking about the forums while you were talking about Quick Answers. Two different beasts entirely.
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In Q&A section, when I click on some questions I am shown 'Page Not Found'.
This is happening for many questions.
Looking for a switch!
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Ankurm/ wrote: In Q&A section, when I click on some questions I am shown 'Page Not Found'.
This is happening for many questions.
Another confirmation.
This is indeed happening on many questions.
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Me too facing same problem since morning
Life's Like a mirror. Smile at it & it smiles back at you.- P Pilgrim
So Smile Please
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All fixed. A redirection was missing on a few of the servers.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Verified!
Looking for a switch!
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Your link doesn't work; but if you're talking about sandympatil[^] he's been posting drivel at a level only slightly below the high sewermark set by teh developer; and has explicitly[^] stated his only reason for this crap is to try and gain points. As you can see by his rep graph he's hemorrhaging points at the maximum daily cap for debater penalties.
3x12=36
2x12=24
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Dan
I believe Hans was linking to Ladislav Nevery's thread which got moved to this forum (Suggestions).
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I would like to post some articles for TclTk. Can we have a category for Scripting Languages and have TclTk, Python, Ruby, Perl etc. under it?
Regards
N. Sharjith
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Hi guys. I recently noticed that every time I publish an article. One guy usually comes around in forum and votes my hard work with zero rating just because he doesn't like the way I format source code.
That's perfectly fine. I love democracy.
Articles that are dealing with popular things like "capturing video" usually will never have problem with current voting model.
His rant event with few fake accounts will get lost in 96 or so positive votes.
But articles that are useful only to specific but small community have problem.
And we obviously don't wanna end-up in model where people focus only on grid control
Problem is if one creates more accounts and posts negative posts and zero votes for no apparent reason to article that even though voted 4.7 avg had only 5 votes on total for long period of time.
Everyone gets the math I think.
Currently I solve it like this.
I post the article he immediately posts his whitespace rant with zero votes I delete and repost the article to reset the forum.
(Yes Sometimes needed multiple times during first hour or so) Then after day or so things calm down and people in the forum start to focus on sharing tips and try to help each other. But now I no longer have will to delete whole forum just for some useless rant since forum have some value now.
To CodeProject Guys: ": Please. Give Article authors Forum moderation rights" Thx. On every Author Blog this is normal thing.
Also there is this voting war for place on CodeProject front page where people will immediately vote you 3 just to get their articles there.
To CodeProject Guys: : Please. Let only people that give something to community (articles?) right to vote scores lower than 4. So no one will have more votes votes via zillion of empty accounts. Also your DB will be more compact this way ;D
And finally.
To CodeProject Guys: : Pls calculate and show KARMA rating of each member next to each his post by color.
Now if you vote article down your KARMA goes down. KARMA slowly regenerates. 3 days from complete low ?
I your KARMA is too low you can't post negative scores but you should still retain ability to comment things to preserve democracy and article value in the same time.
"There is always a better way"
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I've added two articles in the last few months, both have reasonable averages.
When I published the first someone voted 3 early on (despite achieveing a decent average), dropping it from the "latest best picks". Once that happens, and and it leaves the latest 10 articles list it disappears below the waves. This is all a biot disheartening, especially given the effort that goes into them. Your not the 1st person to mentional the tactical voting scenario, here, but I'm not sure what can be done about it.
Dalek Dave: There are many words that some find offensive, Homosexuality, Alcoholism, Religion, Visual Basic, Manchester United, Butter.
Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.
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That's the thing that bugs me most about article voting. It works well enough in the long run, but an early low vote will pretty much limit your exposure.
I've recommended previously that all articles should start out with a vote of 3 (weight e.g about gold member - needs to be tested).
This could be retroactively applied to all articles even without updating the database, and would reduce the impact of the initial votes.
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First, this is not the place to suggest changes to the site (there's a forum for that).
Second, welcome to my own personal hell. There's really nothing you can do about the univoters. When the vote a 1 or 2, they have to give a reason. If their reason is obviously garbage, you can go to the site bugs/suggestions forum and ask for the offending vote to be removed, or take other measures to have the post removed by osmosis.
Third, deleting the article and resubmitting taxes the system. Don't do it - it's pointless.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Ladislav Nevery wrote: he doesn't like the way I format source code
I get that too; I shrug it off.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: delete and repost
Don't do that or I'll start 1-voting you.
Users are welcome to vote any way they like. You are welcome to "vote to remove" their post.
What might be better is if the author could choose whether or not to allow voting on the article. Most of us don't write articles to get a good rating.
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I will always would wanna have voting on my articles. Good or bad.
But the Thing is that current voting system is not democratic to articles that will never have large amount of views/votes due to target audience being small.
Since one guy with few fake accounts easily sinks article that had good rating for over 2 years.
For things like "white-space formatting".
Other than that I don't care about overall voting and I post articles if I feel that it may help people. If the article is over 4 than I feel it's probably useful to people and if not then I will remove it myself
Anyway I just tried to propose solution to make system better.
"There is always a better way"
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Ladislav Nevery wrote: not democratic
Sure it is.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: one guy with few fake accounts easily sinks
Or elevates -- why don't you make more memberships and up-vote your articles? Make thirteen (if I recall correctly) and vote the offending votes into oblivion.
Ladislav Nevery wrote: make system better
It can't be done.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: What might be better is if the author could choose whether or not to allow voting on the article
Maybe what we need is to give an author a choice for the minimum rep required for voting, say:
- voter needs to be at least gold author (intended for extensive or advanced articles)
- voter needs to be at least silver author (intermediate)
- voter needs to be at least bronze author (beginner's article)
- everyone can vote
where probably the minimum could not be set higher than the author's own color.
and maybe we want author or authority, not just author for the voter's color.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: minimum could not be set higher than the author's own color
I would almost say that only members of the author's level and above can vote on the article.
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isn't that what I said? it sure is what I meant to say.
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