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Great idea.
Currently links to downloads are hard-wired into the text. We're nearing the end of a release cycle which will free us up to finally complete the long awaited download-count feature. As part of this we're reworking the links between articles and downloads and this will then allow us to implement this easily.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Is there any hope of a stand alone forum build making it into the next cycle?
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Stand alone forum build?
Sorry - I must be in low caffeine mode. Can you remind me?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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You've talked about putting a .net build of the forum software up as an article (to replace the ancient classic asp one that's currently out there) but said that breaking the forum codebase free from the rest of the CP framework would require a decent amount of effort and that doing so had been back-burnered for years as a result.
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That won't be part of this effort since they are different projects.
I was actually thinking about that last night. Our codebase has an awful lot of cross dependencies between the projects (eg Membership, forums, articles etc) and we're started the ball rolling on properly breaking these out and coding against a proper set of interfaces. Once this is done we'll have the Forum code in a separate solution.
The only trick then will be: how much of the rest of our core infrastructure will it rely on, and is it possible, without simply throwing 10 years of development out to the crowd, to release just the forums.
I'd love to do it. The world needs better forums.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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That's good to hear. If/When you're finally able to do so I'll probably end up writing a pair of articles providing bi-directional email/nntp gateways.
One of the other forums[^] I frequent is a poster child for the lack of good forum software. Due to a number of regulars being in the military low bandwidth/high latency tolerant connections (email/nntp) are requirements and and we're unwilling to give up full threading either. Having been burned by software being discontinued in the past the admin is insisting on access to the source as well. The problem is that there are no forum apps that provide all four of those features and have good performance levels.
The one in current use is a painful example of failure to scale. It runs OK at the very small forum level but even after rewriting the authentication code for an order of magnitude speedup on the web side performance is somewhere between annoying and maddening. While Baen's Bar isn't quite as big as CP it's had >400k messages/(6.7gb) posted since I began archiving the email feed in a gmail account over the last 5(?) years ago.
One example of how it sucks that the admin shared as an example is that the software has 2 backend options: a SqlServer and a bTree(?) constructed using a folder hierarchy on the filesystem. The bTree is the higher performing option.
Writing a full web forum is beyond the scope of a weekends project. I think/hope that bolting gateways onto a well designed existing platform is with my means, and I know CPforum will scale to handle the load.
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Using Firefox (3.6.8) I cannot click in the "filter by tag" box and have the complete checkbox listings to select settings like happens in IE 8. Is this fixable (?), as I normally use Firefox for all. I have searched the site and cannot find any other messages on this topic. I don't mind just selecting vb.net developer for instance but the drop down checkbox selection control sure allows for a lot more filtering as well especially for email message topics etc.
Thanks...Mike
michael judy
m_judy@hotmail.com
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On which page?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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It does not function at all on any page that uses a filter by tag box. Mainly I use it when on topic pages viewing articles. But it also does not work when trying to filter my email topic preferences.
thank you.
Mike
michael judy
m_judy@hotmail.com
"According to my calculations there is no problem"
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Hey it works now!...awesome. Don't know what you did, I did nothing myself, but it is now functional in Firefox.
God Bless.
Mike
michael judy
m_judy@hotmail.com
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Hi developers and hamsters!
It is possible to click reply on a removed message (yes quite handy to see what the message was about). But if you try to write and submit a reply you'll get the following cryptic message, perhaps a different message or disabling the edit field and preview/submit buttons would be more user friendly?
Items that need attention:
* This message is unavailable
Cheers, M
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I'll update the wording
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I was browsing recent questions, and came across this. It says it's locked by CG, and the lock will expire in -7 minutes (it was -5 a couple of minutes ago!) I don't know who, if anyone, is editing it, but the question body is definitely screwed up. [I was going to attach the frame source here, but it's wayyyyy too big.] With any luck you'll get to see it before the whole thing explodes in a puff of hamster vapour.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.
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Looks OK now.
It's time for a new signature.
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Yeah, I'm actually looking at it in another tab. All fixed now, but it was a mess. The negative lock time was what I was really reporting.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.
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I've seen that a couple of times, but have never had the same circumstances to get it - so I never reported it. Annoying though!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Cool! I'll add that to the bug list.
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He'll probably blame it on one of his many corporate enemies.
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Didn't you shoot them all yet?
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I haven't shot anyone since 1978.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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A suggestions for you...
It seems pretty common that people ask questions about articles in the quick answers forum, which is useless because they should be posting at the bottom of the article (example: here). Perhaps when somebody clicks "Ask a Question" in the Q&A menu from an article, they should be directed to a page that says:
"You Shall Not Pass" Message: Do you want to ask a question about the article you were just looking at? If so, then please go back to the article by clicking this link. Otherwise, proceed to the general purpose forum, Quick Answers, by clicking the appropriate button below.
[Ask A Technical Question in Quick Answers] [Ask a Question About The Article]
Either that, or have the "Ask a Question" link navigate to the messages at the bottom of the article (or navigate directly to the page that allows the user to create a new post at the bottom of the article).
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The Quick Answers drop-menu, when viewed from an article, has a menu item at the very top saying "Ask a question on this Article". Clicking it takes you to the discussion board for that article.
People don't read.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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The menu system seems to be going a bit bonkers at the moment (won't open in IE and won't close and has no style in Firefox), but I think I understand what you are saying.
By giving them both options, you are giving them the opportunity to skip over "Ask a Question on this Article" and they go straight to "Ask a Question". By providing a page with descriptive buttons that they actually have to read, that slows them down a bit and makes them think.
An alternative would be to have the menu say "Ask a Question" (that option would not do anything when clicked) then have a submenu that says "Ask a Question About This Article" (takes the user to the bottom of the article) and "Ask a Question About Something Else" (takes the user to QA). That saves you from having to write an entirely new page, and it still makes the user think about which option they click. Having it as a submenu also makes it immediately clear that there are multiple ways to ask a question.
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