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This[^] one. There appears to be a free trial but no free version per se.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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There is no longer a moderation option that says "advertises a commercial product", only spam/abusive. This one is neither (I reported it earlier today via that anyway, but I wonder if it was the appropriate selection)
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It's also not clear from the web site whether you can use the free trial indefinitely, or whether it somehow "expires". If it expires, then yes, it's definitely commercial.
OTOH, what if some member wants to discuss a commercial library or tool - one that he wasn't connected with in any way. I would be interested in what he has to say, since a recommendation from a member has more value to me than a paid-for advertisement.
So, barring vendors touting their own products, I think members should be allowed to write about any library, tool, or book they wanted to, since this would add content of value to the community. After all, this is no different than people asking in the Lounge, "Hey, can anyone recommend a library to do X?", except that an article would give a more in-depth answer.
[update] Articles written to complain about a product should not be allowed for obvious reasons. [/update]
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I didn't think of that, I posted a comment there. A feature-limited free version would be nice, looks interesting.
However, it would be difficult to ascertain whether the author is really unconnected with the product.
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Indivara wrote: it would be difficult to ascertain whether the author is really unconnected with the product Yes, of course. This will always require an editor's judgment.
Current policy restricts any articles discussing a commercial product. IMHO, both CodeProject members and also CodeProject itself lose from that policy..
"How is that, Hans?", you ask.
Indivara, it's like this: If the product's vendor is currently paying to advertise on CodeProject, they will be pleased to get a positive independent recommendation for their product. If a competitor sees the article, they will think, "Our competitor is advertising on CodeProject, and now they've gotten an endorsement from an IT professional. We better start advertising on CodeProject ourselves." For members, of course, such an article will be like having a fully detailed answer to a question posted in the Lounge. If the article author is a Lounge regular, people will see that this is an independent recommendation, and not a vendor's spam.
I personally pay close attention to recommendations posted in the Lounge by regulars, because I know that they are speaking from their own experience. It would be incredibly helpful to have more details than just, "Yeah, buy this one."
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That's interesting...
Personally I have no objection to commercial products in articles, as long as they are clearly labeled so (and put in a separate area, maybe). It is rather disappointing to find a really cool library that solves all your problems, and then find out it costs several thousand dollars
I wonder what Chris et al think? Perhaps a free product showcase (a free showcase for paid products, that is)? Maybe require a certain reputation to use it?
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What's the difference between "advertises a commercial product" and spam? (apart from intent, I guess).
We're announcing a change very soon that will make the "wrong section" option cover the current need.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Well you answered your own question...
Spam is "hey look at my cool website" or "make your dong longer!"...
(can either sell something or not)
I was reluctant to select that option mainly because spam and abusive were grouped together
See Hans' reply though, what do you think?
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Yeah. Right. RTFM. Sorry for wasting your time...
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I've posted a comment to Esteban to explain the position - perhaps you'd care too as well, the more who do this the better.
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I made an article. But the editor thinks it more suited as a tips, so he create a copy to tips and marked the article as unfinished. I want to keep the 'tips' and delete the 'article' but the links on the 'tips' point to the 'article' which means (I think) the link will break when I delete the article. How to post source code example files in tips?
I don't want to delete the 'tips' because the comment and the bookmark from others. Although I've marked the article as programming tips (duplication)
No one can prevent me to learn something
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I'd be happy to upload the source for you and add it to your Tips & Tricks post
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project
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thank's. By making my old article unfinished, I can link the file from my new tips n trick article. Maybe the problem is i can't make it unfinished by myself. So I leave it that way
No one can prevent me to learn something
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I thought we were supposed to get points for reporting stuff. I reported two articles and didn't see any points awarded as a result. The articles are here:
Loading Master Page Dynamically[^]
Membership and Role Management[^]
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I spotted the star, all is well, I get to bookmarks, but why is there a little padlock with yellow triangle beside My Settings?
Does it mean I am Clamped?
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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It means they are secured. It's the quick and easy way to see what's secured for you in the site - in just the same way you see the padlock in an HTTPS page.
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It means you lost on the boss level and now have to go through the locked Fortress Of Doom.
Sometimes it's used as a link to your settings via a secure connection.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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"My settings" used to always use https, now it is optional. Isn't that a step backward? People tend to forget about security.
If there is a good reason to allow unsecure access, maybe it should be the exceptional case, i.e. somewhat hidden, rather than the other way around.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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Security is not a dirty word.
Crevice is a dirty word.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Smut. That's a dirty word.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: If there is a good reason to allow unsecure access,
Speed is the reason. Accessing your settings via SSL is slow.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I had no idea the lock image was actually a different URL. I thought it just indicated that the "My Settings" link was secure. Perhaps that could use some redesign. For example, make "My Settings" use HTTPS and use an image of an open lock or something for HTTP. That way, users are defaulted to the more secure version. Though, that then presents with the problem of the user clicking the lock thinking it's the same link as "My Settings" and getting to the non-secure page. Maybe this image should be removed completely. Who accesses their settings enough for the speed issue to be a problem for them?
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My thoughts exactly. Security over speed. Settings better not be viewable/editable over an insecure connection. We don't need SPAM or identity theft after using a hotspot.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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