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RayH1066 wrote: My 'plea' is perfectly valid and a view of the state of communications on the
web in general and is not a 'dedicated' moan but a reminder that it is people
that are being communicated with and not just a faceless electronic piece of
code.
Oh come on. This is a joke.
If you have specific issues with specific articles there are ways and means of dealing with that and I don't know very many authors who would be anything other than delighted to receive feedback.
If you're complaining that the quality of the internet isn't up to the standards that you demand then frankly....I don't know what to say. The words 'Life' 'Get' and 'A' spring to mind in no particular order.
I don't know about anyone else, but this is all feeling a bit troll like to me.
-Richard
Hit any user to continue.
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A certain level of experience may be expected, especially when the articles may be demonstrating an advanced feature or design concept.
There are plenty of sites that provide noob advice and “Hello World “ examples. For most of the articles that I have taken advantage of here at CP have been very beneficial. And many of them provide the projects link. There hasn’t been one that I’ve haven’t been able to get up and running. For me, that’s part of the fun! 
If every article provided all the ground up info there would be a tremendous amount of repeated information. It might be perceived to be insulting to provide what most take as common knowledge.
There are many great authors here, and I have found most of them very accommodating pertaining to questions, I take advantage of the combined knowledge. CP makes my code look good. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Hi.
Thank you.
In many respects I don't disagree with you, when time and resource is provident. Sometimes a solution is needed fast and spending days touring forums asking questions and being provided with answers which do not do what they claim to do is unneed at that time. Many forums contain pleas from users who have been given a half answer and then 'dropped'. That sort of response is getting very common and while on my onw I can do nothing to change it, maybe, just maybe, a smalkl ripple might grow a bit stronger.
I think my concern is that many people on forums only want to show off how clever they are and do not take a moment to consider the persons situation who is asking the question.
I can remember a chap on the Dojo forum who stated that he wasnt there to answer newbie questions and he would see about getting newbies banned because his attitude was only 'upperlevel' questions should be asked.
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RayH1066 wrote: I think my concern is that many people on forums only want to show off how clever they are and do not take a moment to consider the persons situation who is asking the question.
In my experience of CodeProject an attitude like that will get you voted (i.e. slapped) down very quickly. Check out a few random questions and answers and see how hard people will try to help those who ask sensible and well presented questions. However, people who post questions such as, "Plz sir, I need code to run college administration; it is urgent" are unlikely to get anything other than a raspberry.
The best things in life are not things.
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Thank you.
I used the word Forums NOT CODE PROJECTS. And if you tour forums you will Im sure have encountered the attitudes I've illustrated.
I am concerned now by the level of attitudes that seem to be developing from this forum. NOW I am getting concerned. Emmmmmmmmmmmmm
It would appear from a few responses that I am not allowed to have an opinion.
Wow...
Maybe I ought to take a look at how this site is funded? It is appearing to be too dicatatorial for comfort. And Yes. Im sure I will receive loads of responses to tell me to sling my hook, how juvinle that would be.
Burying a view point is not any way to consider an issue. Reasoned argument is and if this site is not able to provide that then this site is, im my opinion, not an open forum as I keep being told it is.
I am entitled to an opinion and I have merely asked for authors to check sometimes that their code works and a few responses acknolwedge that can be an issue for time to time, so I'm not saying anything which is untrue! If it is a problem of framework etc then a simple sentance posted on the article to say what framework was used might help to eleviate some of the problems I've encountered, and I resfuse to accept that I'm the only one. But to receive some of the comments I receive over what is a simple observation beggers belief. And, if some of the replies I've received are indicative of the 'sites controlling attitudes' then WOW, they must only be in this for the revenue they can gleam and cant give a damm about users? I hope that is not the case, I sincerely do.
Thank you
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As far as your comments about the comments you have received here, I can only say that any opinions expressed on the forums don't necessarily reflect official Code Project policy. At no point in this thread has a member of the CP team spoken up.
I wish people would stop downvoting you.
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Hi.. Thanks
I dont care if they down vote, it just shows their ignorance and the ability to accept that someone has a view different to theirs. Shame really, but that seems to be the way of the world these days. Tolerance, open mindedness, understanding and the service factor seems to have fallen by the way and no longer have value in our global electronic societies.
Thanks
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RayH1066 wrote: It would appear from a few responses that I am not allowed to have an opinion.
On the contrary, you are fully entitled to your opinion. The problem is that you don't readily accept that other people can have a different one. Go back and look at the tone of some of your responses to people (including me) who have challenged, disagreed with, or offered an alternative to what you have said.
BTW I have not been among the downvoters; I may not agree with everything you say but I do believe you are fully entitled to your opinions.
The best things in life are not things.
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I'm sorry, what's the question?
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I posted an observation.
Maybe you might care to read the opening comment and view the rest?
Thank you for your response
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You posted a rant in the Questions & Answers section and marked it as a question. The Lounge is probably a better place for that.
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Hi. Yep, you may be right, nether-the-less, I seemed to be swamped with people trying to tell me that Im not entitled to air my view. Wow. Ho Hum
Thanks
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So, successful troll is successful?
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hahahah. What? hahahahaha well lost on that one. If its an insult, lol, it didnt work cos it went over my head hahahahahaha
hahahahha
bye
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Rick Shaub wrote: troll
Methinks you got it. He's probably of the many "he that shall not be named" using a throw away account.
Why is common sense not common?
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert.
Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy
Individuality is fine, as long as we do it together - F. Burns
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I seriously doubt this is HWSNBN because he's being nice with me and I'm definitely not HWSNBN favourite person.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: HWSNBN
Yeah I know the idiot that you are speaking of. I have no doubt that this is not him. It's some other troll that thinks we should all serve him.
Why is common sense not common?
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert.
Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy
Individuality is fine, as long as we do it together - F. Burns
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Thanks for starting an excellent thread.
I won't rehash the comments made by others, but the main points are
1. The articles are peer moderated
2. Almost all authors try and ensure their code works. If it doesn't then a quick comment at the bottom of the article helps them find and fix the problem, and alerts others who may come across the article that there are potential issues. Posting any work-arounds you find is doubly valuable
3. Providing good setup explanations is definitely extremely valuable. Can you suggest ways to encourage authors to do this? We have a template that most follow, but not all follow it. Maybe we need a checklist:
- Does the code compile and run?
- Are all setup instructions included?
- Are links to any other downloads correct?
- ...
I agree that there definitely are problem articles, which is expected in such a large collection, but which we have a good comment and rating system in place to help weed out. You've expressed dissatisfaction, but what other concrete and practical steps can be taken by the community to help lift overall quality, and/or flag poor articles?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Is there any interest in a class to read/write/do-other-stuff-to .aco files? These files (sometimes called color swatch files) are used to store color palettes for Adobe Photoshop, and are also used by some other web designer tools.
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It's impossible to say; if you have an article in mind, or ready made, go ahead and publish and see what happens. I am fairly sure there are many CP members who look at articles but don't visit the forums, so publishing is always the best way to go.
The best things in life are not things.
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Thanks, Richard. I think you are right.
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And I forgot to mention that having seen other of your contributions I am sure it will be well received. Although I am a bit confused by this one, and this one.
The best things in life are not things.
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I am missing something. How do we insert a code block in an article? I understand that we need the pre block but do we need to go through the code and remove all the special characters like the '>'?
Thanks for any help.
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Encode your characters so that they are valid HTML. A decent web editor will help you here.
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I have tried entering valid html inside the pre block and nothing shows up.
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