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I think self aware is a property of computations, so anything is possible.
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Many programs today are indeed self aware inasmuch as they monitor their own state - generally they also take some action should that state change under specific circumstances, however that action is predetermined.
This however does not in any way make them intelligent for that they would need to independently generate the new/updated algorithms to determine what action needs to be taken and understand why. Even the most advanced neural nets are nowhere near this level of complexity. Will they become so someday - probably - will it be soon - probably not.
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r v self aware?
manoj sharma
09313603665
manoj.great@yahoo.com
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yes
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craig spanza wrote: I do not think that even a human brain can emulate another human brain. I know I cannot experience someone else's 'self awareness'.
well said.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011) "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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of course not. The simulated brain will be self-aware, not the simulating program.
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I like that, not the program but the simulated brain.
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are humans self aware ?
manoj sharma
09313603665
manoj.great@yahoo.com
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Yeah humans are self aware, why do you think they are not?
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if v r self aware then what is our purpose for being here?
every program has a purpose.
a beautiful signature
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I think my purpose is to live as long as possible, leave a good legacy behind and enjoy life to the fullest or and reproduce so does having a purpose make one self aware?
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this purpose is chosen by self.
which criteria decides purpose for ai?
a beautiful signature
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chosen by default, every being is designed to reproduce, leave a good legacy and be happy
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Yes, most of them are. One probably needs to be to ask such question.
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No.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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so why no? i think at least the simulated brain would be self aware, don't you think?
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Are you self aware?
OR is it just an illusion caused by all these signals wizzing around in that big chunk of meat in your skull? :P
Is an ant self aware? A fish? A human?
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I think any living thing is self aware, i think anything with short term memory that can keep track of its actions or learn from them is aware of it's existence.
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Nice insight
Humans are self aware because of the senses and the way how the brain analyses the perceptions received.
If the robots are fitted with the necessary sensors and the programs to analyse them and re-program themselves according to the sensory data received,then we will be no longer away from self-aware programs and robots.
modified 27-Apr-12 9:47am.
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+5, but with an addendum;
Some animal rely on hereditary knowledge. Our brain being an animal-like one, I'd say that the reptile in there might be hard enough to simulate.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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I agree with you. In case we want to mimic the hereditary knowledge, we can have the base program built in the system in the beginning itself, sort of hardwired but upgradable as required
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Why are you convinced that people around you are self-aware ? Because you constantly Turing-test them for this feature, and they appear to behave as if they were self-aware.
An accurate simulator will achieve that level of perfomance.
The same holds for 'consciousness'.
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Well i think people are self aware as anything that possesses self monitoring and a short term memory, so in this case it's not the Turing test i'am using,it's an assumption, but that's a good insight you have there.
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so What makes you think i'am not just a program now? - you might be replying to a program right now.
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Hi
You are right.
Finally: the only "proof" for the foreign (Self)awareness is communication.
Pure logical symbolic representation can not result in selfawareness. See Kurt Gödel
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