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Chris Maunder wrote:
It almost feels like you are just trolling around to get more attention to the ultrabook challenge.
Chris Maunder wrote: I had a first gen, sold that to get a 2nd gen, and now have a third gen. My 2nd gen Toshiba is my primary work machine at home and while travelling, and the 3rd gen I know have blows my toshiba out of the water in terms of power.
Assuming that you are talking about ultrabooks here, you are comparing lower generation ultabook with a higher generation ultrabook. And somehow I should reach a conclusion that ultrabooks are better bargain than lightweight laptops? I sense a logical fallacy here.
Ok lets make some reasonable comparisons between ultrabooks and lightweight laptops. Recently I bought Sony VAIO S series (small and lightweight laptop). I hostly considered buying an ultrabook, but ended up having strong opinion agains ultrabook, and here is why:
1. CPU speed and RAM size: In terms of these two spec, most ultrabooks will give less for the same price than lightweight laptops, and even if you are willing to pay a lot, I doubt that there are ultrabooks that can provide more CPU power and RAM size than lightweight laptops will.
2. Number of USB ports: How many times you wished you had one more USB port? You get even less USB ports with ultrabooks than with ordinary laptops.
3. Ethernet card: Many ultrabooks do not have ethernet card. Believe me or not, but people still prefer ethernet connection to Wi-Fi. I have yet to meet anyone who will come to office and say "No, I will just keep using wi-fi". Given a choice they always choose ethernet connection.
4. Dedicated graphics card: Most ulltrabooks have onboard graphics card, and best you can get currently is HD4000. That is very low end graphics card, and basically useless for someone who does any kind of modern CGI. My VAIO, on the other hand, has dedicated graphics card with which I am very much satisfied.
5. Disk drive: With ultrabooks you have no choice but to have SSD. With lightweight laptops you have a choice between SSD and HDD . You know, many people need a disk with more capacity than more speed. Do you know how much data a single FMRI experiment can generate? Well, lets just say that dozen of those experiments can fill up an entire SSD on ultrabook.
6. CD-ROM: Personally, I can't remember the last time I would choose to use CD. However, there are many occasions when I need a CD-ROM. You know the kind of situations where you are on the conference and all the proceedings are on CD, or how about the occasion where you attend a talk introducing a new software and its sample is distributed on CD?
7. Touchscreens: they are just gimmicky. For ages there were touchscreen monitors available for desktop computers. Somehow, they never became popular so far, and I do not think they will become popular with ultrabooks. Simply because touchscreen has very limited functionality comparing to mouse and keyboard. Honestly, I prefer my screen to be clean. It is easier to read a source code that way.
So tell me again why I should have bought an ultrabook instead of Sony VAIO S series? And this time without raging, please.
Best,
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meta_berkut wrote: So tell me again why I should have bought an ultrabook instead of Sony VAIO S series? And this time without raging, please
Actually, I think the initial point is that you said they were ultrauseless. It was that rather extreme generalisation that I thought was a little wild and crazy.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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The next Master Chef could be based on Ultrabooks burning hot for cooking...
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Ultra heavy. Not a laptop, and ultratop, use to be called a luggable.
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I was going to say something snarky about the proliferation of eBooks, iPads, xPlanners, and yChromosomes, but why bother?
m.bergman
For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire
In most cases the only difference between disappointment and depression is your level of commitment. -- Marc Maron
I am not a chatbot
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Planning on buying a Surface Pro when it's released Q1 2013.
/ravi
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Planning on getting PixelSense[^] Table when I win the lottery.
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Ditto. And a Surface RT when they're available later this year.
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Surface RT and Pro?
/ravi
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I want to be able to test on both versions of the OS.
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Ah. I thought Win8 Pro was a superset of WinRT, but I could be wrong.
/ravi
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Win8 runs on x86/x64. WinRT runs on ARM. And yes, Win8 is more feature-rich (no installable desktop apps for WinRT, just IE and basic MS Office apps).
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If I win the lottery
Still thinking Pro or RT or Pro...
Loves me, loves me not...
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Same here. I need a new laptop, but I have one I can use for now, so I'm going to wait until the Surface Pro is out (and if it flops, I'll look into something else at that time).
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Regardless of price and specs?
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Based on today's expectation that it will sport at least an i5, a 128G SSD, and 4+ GB of RAM and will be in the $1200 range.
/ravi
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It's taking too long to get out...
By that time those specs are already obsolete.
Ok, not obsolete, but overpriced when compared with other options.
Cheers!
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Methinks they'll have to price match the competition.
/ravi
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like I need another hole in my head.
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I need one as well...
like I need another hole in my ass.
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In Turkiye, they are still selling them without SSD's, or else with SSDs they are too expensive... When SSD will be a standard, then for sure I'll buy one. Long battery life, thin and comfortable usage and with SSD, you'll feel like you are on the magic carpet, flying!
BSC
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Like I say for ages, more important than the CPU speed is the amount of memory and the HD speed.
Do a full memory upgrade on the memory and install an SSD on your laptop and you'll have a flying machine
Cheers!
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Go to your local rug merchant if you want a flying carpet.
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