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Probably, but I would like the satisfaction of telling he/she just what I think of them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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...that's worth way more than $20 billion, it's priceless.
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WPF is obsolete. The cool kids have moved on to greener pastures.
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So that is why the WPF team is building up numbers again?
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They are? Maybe they're making it usable. Too late though, will never touch that pile of dung.
Wout
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They are, and I find it extremely usable.
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Mycroft, give your middle finger to the web trend of microsoft, and support a WPF developer like me by buying IaaS Management Studio.
Good old productivity tool in WPF and licensing as we always liked
Or else, I'll be obliged to jump on the MVC band wagon and give right to the pea brained idiot. :'(
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Kent Sharkey wrote: It means they're getting close to 0x20
I'm drawing a blank.
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We don't like characters like you saying things like that.
/ravi
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There's a space between my ears and I sometimes act out of character.
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And that's the difference between upper and lower case.
/ravi
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I think that's the right protocol.
/ravi
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Er.. I'm not really terrified, I'm 42 already!
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Business Insider wrote: the future for an average programmer can appear pretty bleak after 29. The future for an average anyone can appear pretty bleak after 29.
/ravi
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Very true and thats the scary factor.
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I call bullshit.
Headhunters will always be lazy; yes, it is assumed that those fresh out of school aren't experienced enough, and that those with a certain mileage are outdated. He's merely talking about the generalization of the public - a "good" programmer is at least as young as the founder of FaceBook. And if he's as old as Bill Gates, then he "must" be equally outdated.
I found that the prejudice is actually beneficial. No more "exciting opportunities" or "challenging environments", no more marketing-drivel. It's a nice way of filtering all those non-job-offers that merely exist to fish the top 1% out of the market (ask Joel[^]).
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Kent Sharkey wrote: age 30, the future for an average programmer can appear pretty bleak after 29. 29
I have seen many developers crossed this benchmark ... Very soon, I will cross that line
You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.
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I don't know really, I have recently passed 51 and I am still doing fine.
Mind you: it helps if you can think, calculate and dream in binary and hex. A skill few youngsters these days are any good at.
Remembering and knowing how to cram a bunch of software in something with a few dozen kilobytes and even less RAM is also a bonus. Those of us who are below 30 are sometimes a bit addicted to freely available multiple gigabytes.
My first machine had 1024 bytes of EPROM (to hold the "OS") and an equal amount of RAM (to hold the software and data) so yes: things have evolved a bit since then.
Just go with the flow, keep up to date with new stuff and things should be just fine. You never know when they need some knowledge from an old dinosaur or crocodile.
I have been called an old crocodile and I don't mind. They were there before the dinosaurs and they are still around so I guess I have a bit a margin yet.
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I'll take your 51 and raise it. Clearly I'm still do something right. I have the good fortune I don't look like the typical profile of someone in my age group. My wife would probably say I don't act my age either so there's a complement in there somewhere, at least I think there is.
If you feel older than you are it'll probably show. I avoid the here-today-gone-tomorrow fads in development. So far I've got by without them. I'm not 29 any more but don't get me started on that crock of shite called Agile this, Scrum that, Kanban must-do and other MBA buzzwords.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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I'm in my early 30's and while the first computer I messed around with programming on only had 4k of ram working in tight constraints does make for a major change. After subtracting for a data buffer I've only got 8k of usable ram on the microcontroller. OTOH at 80mhz this pic utterly smokes not only the sub-MHz trs80 color I started on; but probably the 486-25 I used next.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Quote: ...the future for an average programmer can appear pretty bleak after 29.
I'm relieved...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Quote: the future for an average programmer can appear pretty bleak after 29.
Excellent - that means only the above average programmers make it into their 30s? Per ardua ad astra indeed.
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote: Excellent - that means only the above average programmers make it into their 30s?
Above average programmers? I'm in.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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